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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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additionally july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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welcome

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this spoke radio

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how are you doing today's tuesday august

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223 days into the new year only

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total dis

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total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful

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all right hold on man i got text coming

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in already

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this is great stuff

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yeah it's been a crazy day

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it's been a crazy day folks

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg ra the planet i

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am your host jimmy church

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now a couple of things i found out today

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in a roundabout way i've got to go back

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and and reset some things

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one of my compressors is

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and i have a few feeds that go out and

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and that compressor i don't monitor that

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i can't if i go over and hit the switch

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that is going out directly and then what

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the compressor is bearing uh

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that there are a couple of different

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about the video feed going out and and

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there is a button or two and a knob or

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two on the main network compressor that

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right now and it looks like it's fine

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but it's the way that compressors react

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i set them up as limiters right now

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they're compressing and that's that's

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for that and i just didn't know okay

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i was like man that looks weird

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that was sounding strange and i was like

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man people have been listening to that

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get to it today i had a busy day

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mystery so much fun uh doing that and

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cool show and today we did the majestic

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12. you know she picks uh it's her show

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really really cool so go and check that

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out go and follow christina

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uh she's just she's just awesome i want

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everybody to go and check out that show

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for that christina and she's hanging out

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secret ufo projects i talked about this

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steven is going to be here at the bottom

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and images and things so that'll be

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uh here on fade to black and there was

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something else i wanted to mention

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really quick

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and now it just escaped me okay but

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i've got uh

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three conferences coming up

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one on the 18th that is making contact

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with mark sims it's the 18th 19th 20th

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21st 22nd five day conference virtual

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you're gonna go and hang out you're

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gonna build an avatar you're gonna go

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and do that get a hundred dollars off

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with jimmy save 100 all uppercase

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makingcontact.com

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is where you go for that i've got

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everything up in social media

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and you can go and click

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makingcontact.com

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promo code jimmysave1

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and that's a five day event with my

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discount code that's a hundred and forty

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nine dollars for five days with the

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biggest names out there and i'm very

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excited about eric weinstein and

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everybody's great but eric weinstein

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and uh wow right okay so go and do that

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immediately after that

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conscious life expo

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um the promo code for that is jimmy

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i've got some other links that i will be

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posting up tomorrow that's coming up

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september 17th 18th and 19th this is an

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uh two locations los angeles california

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at the lax hilton and london over in the

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united kingdom at the hilton over there

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uh eight or ten hours here in los

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you to get tickets and come and hang out

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with me at the lax hilton and then after

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that we shift over to london

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for their uh portion of the conference

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and if you can't be here in person

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everything will be live streamed you can

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get tickets for that too as well

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and you're gonna get three days 16 hours

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a day of streaming content and um so

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there you go that's

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consciouslifeexpo.com promo code

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jimmy we'll get you i think 20 off

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i'll have some special links for that uh

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starting uh tomorrow i just got the

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links today and then after that it's

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star works with paula harris and that is

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november um

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out at the aquarius hotel and casino in

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laughlin nevada

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starworksusa.com is where you want to go

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for your tickets and info

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i cannot wait for that too as well so

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yeah after not doing conferences for a

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year and a half boom everything is

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just wanted to get all of that

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out of the way

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follow me on twitter at j church radio

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if uh you don't follow me on twitter i

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think you should and i do a lot of

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hanging out there but earlier today

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i posted a tweet out to jj abrams

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i want you to go and check out the tweet

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and i want your comments i tweeted out

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did jj abrams and use

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showtime to project the idea that ufos

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are just a cover for us military tech

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question mark

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i'm just asking the question after

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watching all four episodes of ufo

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what is your opinion now i hit this out

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i don't know if jj reads his twitter

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account he probably doesn't i'm sure

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that one of his producers uh are

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monitoring his

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his account

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uh i hit show time up for this too as

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well i'm just wondering if they are

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hanging out in social media

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and getting feedback or do they even

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care about the ufo community you know

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and you think about jj abrams and

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everything i mean is he aware

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is he aware i or does he even care

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i'm not so sure but uh it would be cool

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i'm just throwing this out there to the

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universe to get jj abrams on fade to

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black i know that's a big get and that's

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a big ask but if jj's smart he'll come

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on fade to black and and answer these

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what was the intention

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you know what what does he know

283
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uh why did he approach things the way

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that he did

285
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you know and and there you go so i'm

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throwing it out there to the universe

287
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you never know what the future

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will hold all right get to the breaking

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news

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big

291
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i don't do politics on this show but i

292
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gotta mention this

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because today

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new york governor andrew cuomo

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resigned

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that's right

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and it's one of those sort of

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resignations by the way

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he resigned today he's out in 14 days so

300
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it's not like he's out of office today

301
00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:21,279
but uh that was announced that's pretty

302
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big news

303
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and also

304
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just announced and i'm very sad to talk

305
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about this

306
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um

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rat singer and front man stephen piercy

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has revealed that he has liver cancer

309
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and that he was diagnosed three years

310
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ago

311
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he's kept everything private until now

312
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and he says that the treatment that he

313
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has received and is receiving

314
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has been successful so far so all of our

315
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all of our rock and roll thoughts

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are focused

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at stephen piercy

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all right all right let's get this show

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cracking happy birthday to today

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antonio banderas

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is 61.

322
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justin thoreau one of my favorite actors

323
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man uh going all the way back to

324
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zoolander

325
00:16:20,829 --> 00:16:18,560
justin thoreau today is just 50 years

326
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old was great in

327
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zoolander a walk-off

328
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it's hard to believe that that was

329
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justin thoreau you go back and you look

330
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and you see that it is him but that was

331
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a great kind of dreadlocks you know it's

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a walk off

333
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and he was also great in the leftovers

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hey case you didn't know this

335
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justin co wrote tropic thunder

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and he also wrote

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iron man 2

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man of many talents

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ronnie spector today the one and only

340
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ronnie spector today is 78 one of the

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greatest songs in the history of music

342
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and the rock and roll of course be my

343
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baby

344
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:03,279
jethro tells ian anderson today is 74

345
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and nxs drummer

346
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the export

347
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from down under john ferris today is 60.

348
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,520
our dead guy's birthday today is

349
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bobby hatfield

350
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1940 to

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2003 bobby along with bill medley

352
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were the righteous brothers he's saying

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the tenor that's right

354
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he's saying the tenor and he also sings

355
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solo on the group's 1965 recording of

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unchained melody

357
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their first hit number one hit you've

358
00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:42,080
lost that loving feeling well what a

359
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:44,480
great song you know followed by you are

360
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my soul and inspiration

361
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,559
of course unchained melody

362
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and rock and roll heaven that was a good

363
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song too bobby died in his sleep at the

364
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radisson hotel in kalamazoo michigan on

365
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november 5th 2003

366
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right before showtime actually he was

367
00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:02,960
found by bill medley and road manager

368
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:04,799
dusty handy

369
00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:08,640
he was just 63 years old on this day in

370
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history

371
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,679
1977 have you seen sons of sam have you

372
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:15,600
seen that documentary series you need to

373
00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:17,039
check it out

374
00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,320
because on this day in 1977 david

375
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:22,799
berkowitz is arrested and charged with

376
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,840
being the son of sam the serial killer

377
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:27,600
who terrorized new york city for more

378
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,720
than a year

379
00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:31,200
killing six people and wounding seven

380
00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:32,480
others

381
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,549
maybe my best one yet

382
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:43,200
in arkansas

383
00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:47,280
arkansas

384
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:49,760
you can't hold a public office as well

385
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:53,360
as you can't testify in court

386
00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:57,039
if you don't believe in the existence

387
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:58,640
of god

388
00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,400
that's right

389
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:02,480
are you an atheist

390
00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:03,760
right

391
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:07,600
you can't or won't swear on the bible

392
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,080
you can't testify in court in arkansas

393
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:13,440
that's right well it's also illegal to

394
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,880
hold public office if you're an atheist

395
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,799
in maryland

396
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,480
in mississippi

397
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:23,440
in pennsylvania in north carolina in

398
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,400
south carolina

399
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:26,880
in texas and tennessee

400
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:32,630
that's nuts

401
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:35,919
you can't in in south carolina

402
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:38,720
you can't even be what's the the notary

403
00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:40,000
public

404
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:43,280
carolina if you're an atheist if you

405
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,669
and that

406
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:51,679
is your fader fact

407
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:54,400
that's crazy that's crazy tonight very

408
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,799
special guest steven bassett is here

409
00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:58,160
going to be talking about that new

410
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:00,559
netflix series it's out now it's still

411
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,799
trending it's called secret ufo projects

412
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,120
tomorrow night dr robert m shock right

413
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,600
here on this very program and then

414
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,120
thursday it's fader night with open

415
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,039
lines all night long i'm gonna have a

416
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:15,039
couple of special guests

417
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,360
on fader night this week and i will let

418
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,120
everybody know but i want it to be a

419
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:21,520
surprise but it is your calls your

420
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,159
conversation you know you know how we do

421
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:27,120
it on fader night all right let me hit

422
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:29,280
this river moon coffee

423
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,270
ken priest

424
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,600
bring on the rant ken you need to bring

425
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,600
on that chicken and biscuits

426
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:41,840
that's what you need to bring on

427
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,510
i'll bring on the rant you bring on the

428
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,600
chicken and biscuits

429
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:52,320
man ken ken priest has a

430
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:55,679
a chicken in uh i mean a a

431
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,960
a sausage gravy and biscuits box

432
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:01,280
at his restaurant can you believe that

433
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:03,280
and finally in southern california i'll

434
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:04,960
be able to drive

435
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:07,919
and get me chicken or sausage gravy and

436
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,440
biscuits and

437
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,200
in the picture for his restaurant he's

438
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:13,280
got the sausage gravy and the biscuits

439
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,559
right in the middle of the sausage gravy

440
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,559
sausage patty

441
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:21,039
doing it right man

442
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,400
ken priest

443
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:24,400
you're the best ken everybody go follow

444
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:25,280
ken

445
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,919
the end of the show everybody go and

446
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,240
follow ken priest okay you know what i'm

447
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:38,640
gonna do this right here

448
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,000
right now

449
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:42,320
everybody

450
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:44,960
follow

451
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:49,909
do

452
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,880
it

453
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:52,320
now

454
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,080
that's that's that's what i do for

455
00:22:03,350 --> 00:21:59,120
sausage gravy and biscuits

456
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,870
i can be careful man

457
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:09,039
be careful the weight of the heart

458
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,559
the weight of the heart

459
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:12,480
is through the stomach that's what they

460
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,000
say at least with me

461
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,280
works for me all right bring on the rant

462
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,110
oh man

463
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,190
river moon wellness

464
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,520
river moon coffee

465
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,600
it's the best go and get it now fade to

466
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,480
black blend game changer blend

467
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:33,679
all right

468
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:40,870
last night i mentioned

469
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,679
all of the recent ufo programming that

470
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:45,280
has hit over the last week it's been

471
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,320
great

472
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:48,240
but

473
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:51,760
i saved something for tonight's rant

474
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,559
and that is the new film

475
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,880
the 11th green i talked about this

476
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:59,039
earlier on christina's show

477
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:00,320
knowing i was going to talk about it

478
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:04,159
tonight but it's called the 11th green

479
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,440
look it up

480
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,080
it stars campbell scott he's great love

481
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:11,360
campbell great actor agnes bruckner was

482
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:13,679
great in this by the way

483
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,360
and a very wonderful george gerdes as

484
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,960
dwight d

485
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,039
eisenhower

486
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:23,280
leith m burke

487
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,559
as barack obama

488
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,080
ian hart

489
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,640
is james forrestal

490
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,480
and honestly it's a huge cast it's a

491
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,240
great cast too many to mention but i

492
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,720
wanted to mention a little honorable

493
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:38,799
mention of curry graham

494
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:41,840
as larry jacobson he's outstanding

495
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,880
anyway back to the film

496
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,600
i expect somebody to post up

497
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:50,080
right now fade or not the 11th green the

498
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,279
link to it

499
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:53,760
it's on amazon i haven't done it so do

500
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:56,720
it so everybody can see it hashtag it

501
00:24:03,830 --> 00:23:59,679
f2b but anyway

502
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:03,840
back to the film the official tagline

503
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,279
about the film

504
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:08,240
from the movie company is this

505
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,200
quote a respected journalist uncovers

506
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,039
the truth behind the mythology of

507
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:15,440
president eisenhower long alleged

508
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:16,720
involvement

509
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,120
in extraterrestrial events end quote

510
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,960
holy crap right

511
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,799
okay

512
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,240
all right

513
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,480
that may be the overall picture here

514
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:30,960
folks but honestly it's not even close

515
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,950
first

516
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,440
it's low budget

517
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,880
it is

518
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,720
and i love it

519
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,799
but somehow

520
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:48,000
they were able to shoot period segments

521
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,240
from the 50s and the 60s pretty

522
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:53,360
convincingly it's really well done

523
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:57,600
seriously well done the film is totally

524
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:01,120
cool to look at and let's face it you

525
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,400
know you can have the most amazing

526
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,159
script that's great got a great

527
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,320
storyline you got great actors but if

528
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,279
it's not pleasing on the eyes right

529
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:11,600
that's the that's the that's the bonus

530
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,480
here

531
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,640
i don't know how they pulled it off but

532
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,279
they did it's pretty tasty all right

533
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,360
well now that i've gotten that out of

534
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,760
the way

535
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:24,400
if i was able to make a picture on this

536
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:28,480
subject right eisenhower and an ets and

537
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,269
i would totally go for it

538
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:37,350
i wouldn't hold back

539
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:38,240
so

540
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,200
this is my idea for the film if i if i

541
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:43,919
did if i was able to

542
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,760
be the director of a film like this

543
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,159
i would take today

544
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,360
you know

545
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,840
i would take today say like what they

546
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,720
did you know president obama and after

547
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,640
he's left office

548
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:01,200
you know and have him contemplate

549
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:04,480
disclosure did he pull it off right and

550
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,799
and you know and maybe have

551
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,840
maybe have obama put on some headphones

552
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:11,279
right

553
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,799
and and

554
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:14,880
and plug in and

555
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:15,919
and

556
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:22,070
have have obama go back into a deep

557
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:26,000
trance state you know have obama then

558
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:28,000
travel to another dimension in the

559
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:31,600
afterlife have him meet up with

560
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:32,799
ike

561
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,760
yeah

562
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,320
sit down with with ike

563
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,640
and talk about the e.t question maybe

564
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,960
what arrangements that he made back then

565
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,640
you want the inside story you want the

566
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:44,320
poop you got to get it straight for mike

567
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,360
right

568
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,000
why didn't why didn't i go after

569
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,400
disclosure back then you know

570
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,200
and and and and what needs to be done

571
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,799
today ike

572
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,440
what can i do what can barack do in the

573
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,000
year of 2021

574
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,039
you know and have ike just sit there

575
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,120
in this other dimension and speak freely

576
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,279
on the subject disclose everything that

577
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:09,520
he talked about with e.t

578
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:12,799
right who e.t actually was

579
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,039
where this was done and how and where to

580
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:18,799
contact them today

581
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,240
throw that in that's what i would do

582
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,559
barack would come out of his meditation

583
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,520
with answers you know and go and start

584
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,840
to get things done

585
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:31,919
right you would have the light and dark

586
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:35,679
forces in play you know those that do

587
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,799
and don't want disclosure and then obama

588
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,120
would pop the headphones back on

589
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,440
after he's met his challenges and

590
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:45,600
and take everything back to ike right

591
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,200
get his opinions on what to do next

592
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,520
you know and of course barack would get

593
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,039
to meet e.t

594
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,200
right you got to have that

595
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,960
and then you would have your hero's

596
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,360
journey playing out you know where you

597
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,600
get the mission you leave home you

598
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,840
defeat the evil forces and then you

599
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,480
return home the hero right that's what

600
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,320
you would do that's what i would do

601
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:10,159
that's what i would do

602
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:14,840
if somebody would just let me great idea

603
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,679
right well

604
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:19,919
that's what writer and director

605
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:23,120
christopher munch did

606
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,399
in the 11th green and much much more

607
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,720
the movie is so fun and yes at times

608
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,799
it's intense you gotta have that

609
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,640
and

610
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:35,039
but you gotta let go of everything that

611
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,640
you know for this just enjoy the ride

612
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,320
the whole thing is set up in palm

613
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,760
springs

614
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,440
you've got the journalist chasing a

615
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,799
story

616
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,799
the journalist doesn't believe in e.t

617
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,279
but he's he's got a company that says it

618
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,520
has annie gravitic tech for its new

619
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,440
commercial airliner

620
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:55,360
and and then the whole thing shifts back

621
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:58,399
to 1967 when ike and mamie visit palm

622
00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:59,520
springs

623
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,000
and you know what happens on the 11th

624
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,240
green of a golf course hence the title

625
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:05,760
of the film pretty cool

626
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,760
and then you immediately get a young

627
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,919
barack obama you know on the beach in

628
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,799
hawaii hanging out with ike what right

629
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:14,480
what yeah right

630
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:18,000
you get john kennedy you get four stall

631
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:18,880
and

632
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,000
it's just so well done

633
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:26,559
all the way to obama traveling to

634
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,240
another world to sit down with ike and

635
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,320
figure out how to handle disclosure this

636
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:32,799
film has it all it's great

637
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,760
now

638
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,440
there was so much more to this picture

639
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,440
and honestly i haven't given away a

640
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,679
thing as much as i just told you right

641
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,480
now

642
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,000
i haven't told you anything there's so

643
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,159
many plot twists and

644
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,240
the ending is is like

645
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,799
divine perfection

646
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:50,640
i just told you

647
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,240
why to watch it and you should films

648
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,399
like this don't get made every day and

649
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,559
people that take these kinds of chances

650
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,120
are even rarer still

651
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,919
so hats off to christopher munch

652
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,720
well done chris seriously

653
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:08,640
and i want all of you to check out the

654
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:12,080
11th green today you can thank me later

655
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,919
okay it's called the 11th green

656
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,080
i am your host jimmy church this is fade

657
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,000
to black tonight right here

658
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,720
stephen bassett steve ambassador we're

659
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,159
going to be talking about that new

660
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,720
netflix series it is out and trending

661
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,960
right now it's called secret ufo

662
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,080
projects

663
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,960
tomorrow night dr robert m shock joins

664
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:35,840
us going to be talking about his new

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00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:38,640
revised and updated edition

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of forgotten civilization thursday

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night's another fader night with open

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lines all night long

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all right all right i'm yours jimmy

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church this is fade to black on the game

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after this short break stay with us

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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

759
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time to lose

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00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,430
nine out of ten geneticists agree

761
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,829
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762
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:13,280
is not

763
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your father's radio show on the game

764
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,800
changer radio network and kgra the

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766
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:25,200
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768
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,349
all right welcome back fade to black i

769
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,359
am your host jimmy church

770
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,079
what is cracking everybody how you doing

771
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,240
tonight stephen bassett tomorrow night

772
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,560
robert m shock thursday night fader

773
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,160
night with open lines but tonight it's

774
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,760
all about stephen

775
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:05,119
we're going to be talking about that new

776
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,040
series that is still trending on netflix

777
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,599
and we will discuss all of that in depth

778
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,720
tonight

779
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,119
steven is also the executive director of

780
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,119
the paradigm research group founded all

781
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,119
the way back in 1996

782
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,240
to help end a government-imposed embargo

783
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:24,839
on the truth behind the so-called ufo

784
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,280
phenomenon stephen has been a part of

785
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:29,839
this community for a very long time in

786
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,040
2013 prg produced the citizen hearing on

787
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:35,359
disclosure the national press club in

788
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,960
washington dc on november 5th 2014 prg

789
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,320
launched a congressional hearing

790
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:42,800
political initiative seeking the first

791
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:45,000
hearings on capitol hill since

792
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,160
1968. he's a foundation and a pillar of

793
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,920
this community i would like to welcome

794
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,599
back to fade to black

795
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,440
stephen bastet stephen how are you my

796
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:54,720
friend

797
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,280
excellent jimmy excellent

798
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,880
just excellent

799
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,480
i mean excellent you know that's a

800
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:01,920
pretty high bar

801
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:07,270
i go to ludicrous

802
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:10,160
[Laughter]

803
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,359
still my favorite movie uh i i i i

804
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,680
believe that spaceballs is a documentary

805
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,520
by the way that's how many times i've

806
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,880
seen that film

807
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,680
um

808
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,200
and uh

809
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:22,800
you know stephen

810
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,160
um i am going to i was thinking about uh

811
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,320
doing this i'm gonna do it now

812
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,270
the first time you and i met

813
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,960
but you

814
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,440
don't remember

815
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,440
all right and let me tell you why

816
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:40,960
i'm gonna take you back i'm gonna take

817
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,839
you back uh many years

818
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:45,440
there was

819
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,400
um you know i start fade to black i'm

820
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,119
now a co-host on coast to coast

821
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,200
people know my voice

822
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:55,680
they don't know my face right

823
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:56,560
so

824
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:57,680
i go

825
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:58,560
to

826
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,440
see

827
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,520
roger lear

828
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,480
in marina del rey

829
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:07,280
okay this is a long time ago

830
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:08,240
and

831
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,440
uh yvonne smith uh had invited me but

832
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,119
nobody knows who i am

833
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,320
and i stood in the back of the room

834
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:19,760
all right i meet roger and he died right

835
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,200
after that he passed away right after

836
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,359
that but anyway

837
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,520
you are there

838
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,320
and i was like okay there's bassett okay

839
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,280
so i walk up and you had uh

840
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,760
you had a table with some books and some

841
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,000
things there on the table but you're

842
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:37,920
standing there dressed in black you were

843
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,760
you know you were being steven and i

844
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,680
come up and i'm i'm looking at your

845
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:44,079
stuff and you you come up and start

846
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,359
talking to me

847
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,440
and we have this conversation but i

848
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,920
don't introduce myself

849
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:52,320
and and i walked away

850
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,079
and i thought that that was pretty cool

851
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:56,480
but i was i was intentionally running

852
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:58,800
under the radar now i'm going to ask you

853
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,440
do you remember that

854
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:03,359
it might help if you told me the event

855
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,760
you recall it was roger lear speaking

856
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,359
that's it yeah was it a conference was

857
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:11,680
just him speaking yeah it was uh it was

858
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,680
an evonne smith ciro meeting oh yeah

859
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,000
yeah yeah yeah yeah i went to a couple

860
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:20,160
of those and uh

861
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,510
how funny is that what can i say yeah no

862
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,240
i i know you don't remember it and i

863
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,560
stood in the back of the room

864
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,640
and and watched everything and i just

865
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:36,880
you know i wanted to hear what roger

866
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,079
lear had to uh present one of the things

867
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:42,560
that was amazing to me about

868
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,599
that particular meeting there was a

869
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:47,680
it was a pretty decent crowd there i

870
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,480
probably say maybe 75 i don't think it

871
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,240
hit quite a hundred but

872
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,160
but a pretty good pretty good audience

873
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,040
to hear dr roger lear speak

874
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,280
but he said something at

875
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:01,680
at that presentation

876
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,079
and he turns to the audience and says

877
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,000
how many of you

878
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,200
believe that you have an implant

879
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,119
i thought wow that's a great question

880
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,200
right and i'm going to say

881
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,960
stephen i'm going to say half of the

882
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,440
people raise their hand

883
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,359
do you remember that

884
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,359
no but it makes sense yeah that's right

885
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,280
valerie speaking right yeah right just

886
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,440
for dealing with contactees and implants

887
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:29,359
and so if you got an implant you got to

888
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,400
go see roger yeah yeah and i was i was

889
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:34,480
totally blown away

890
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:35,280
uh

891
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:38,000
by half of the audience you know raising

892
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,119
their hand

893
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:41,760
but uh but it was it was really cool and

894
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,560
i got to uh a chat with him briefly but

895
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,000
he passed away

896
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,720
like right after that it was he was

897
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,040
limping that night if you remember he

898
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,119
was limping

899
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,599
i could tell you a story about that time

900
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,839
that was the same period

901
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,200
um

902
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,359
pretty sure

903
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,440
no no that was before well not too long

904
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,960
before that

905
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,000
i was holding um a a group meeting once

906
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,000
a month in marina del rey we called it

907
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,359
the

908
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,359
et media group

909
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,680
and it was specific and we had a big

910
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,920
list of people that we would send out

911
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,359
the notices to

912
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,880
and these were all people pretty much in

913
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:22,880
the in the in the film business film

914
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:25,359
television whatever

915
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,400
and we

916
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,760
there were others that would come but we

917
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,079
were trying to get connected to those

918
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,480
those individuals uh

919
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,760
and we had good good meetings uh 50 60

920
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,440
sometimes 70 people

921
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,760
in in a studio there

922
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,800
and roger would usually come

923
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:43,680
and

924
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,599
forget the woman that was his principal

925
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:49,440
companion it would take help helping get

926
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,319
around

927
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,960
but we but roger i knew roger was near

928
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:55,200
the end i mean he was not in good shape

929
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,040
so we we had the roger greer roger

930
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,160
roger lear uh uh what did what do we

931
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:05,200
call it the roger leer chair for

932
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,880
environmental studies

933
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,960
and it was a everybody had standard

934
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:10,560
seats there you know your standard you

935
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,119
know seats you get a hotel but he had a

936
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,960
special you know chair right with all

937
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,560
the nice arms and everything and he

938
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,079
would sit there and he would present and

939
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,560
he loved coming to this and he enjoyed

940
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,040
it immensely and he got a lot of a lot

941
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,760
of people come up say hello and he got

942
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:28,160
some attention and i was so happy to

943
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,680
have done that it went on for about a

944
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,200
year we did this

945
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,839
because he did not last much longer

946
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:35,200
as as

947
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,680
fact i'd like to mention right now that

948
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,680
we just lost a very important person in

949
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,720
our field

950
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,640
and of course i'm referring to people i

951
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,240
don't know this to

952
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,720
the honorable paul halyard the former uh

953
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:50,400
deputy prime minister of canada and

954
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,599
foreign and defense minister

955
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,319
and this is what tears me up is that

956
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,920
this was a righteous man a very

957
00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:00,079
religious man who led a very

958
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,359
righteous life

959
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,520
took great care of himself he was 98

960
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:06,400
years old and he was fine he was mobile

961
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,520
he was getting around he was great

962
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,599
he fell on some stairs going down into

963
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,720
the garage

964
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,079
in his big building and i was one of

965
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,839
those underground garages and he hit the

966
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:18,480
cement and he never recovered so he died

967
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:19,280
from

968
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:23,839
and why does this trouble me well he

969
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:26,079
lived a great life obviously uh he had a

970
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,280
full life

971
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:30,000
but we're so close to disclosure

972
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,440
and he's been out on this issue since

973
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,000
2005 when he first came forward as part

974
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,880
of victory vigiani's presentation at the

975
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,960
university of toronto which i attended

976
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,800
stanton friedman attended uh

977
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,440
uh and we're interested dolan

978
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,200
where he

979
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,880
he had become convinced that clearly

980
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,560
this was real and that it needed to be

981
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,480
addressed and he spoke out to it

982
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:53,280
and and he has stayed with it ever since

983
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,599
uh adding that gravitas and specialness

984
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:58,000
that a man of his stature can can can

985
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,040
provide

986
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,720
making a little easier for perhaps and

987
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,560
other people to come forward politicians

988
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,720
and so forth wrote four books in that

989
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,280
time had another book ready to be

990
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,440
printed just before his death i think

991
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:11,119
he's written 12.

992
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,800
what a life um and so we lost him

993
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,480
and he didn't get to see disclosure

994
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,560
which i still believe is this year

995
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:20,240
uh assuming another pandemic variant

996
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:23,200
doesn't show up and kill all of us uh so

997
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,000
uh

998
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,079
that's someone else and and we've lost

999
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,319
others as you know and and what kills me

1000
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:30,079
about this the most

1001
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:31,599
is that

1002
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,480
uh

1003
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:33,280
he

1004
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,280
74th year

1005
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,079
i like to say 47 is the beginning so the

1006
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,240
truth embargo is basically now lasted a

1007
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:44,079
standard lifetime

1008
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,599
pretty much yes

1009
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,359
and it just outlived the guy who was

1010
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,000
born in 1923.

1011
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,640
uh and every time somebody dies it's the

1012
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:54,960
truth embargo is outlive them

1013
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:57,760
and this irritates the hell out of me

1014
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,280
right 30 years four years okay

1015
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,920
maybe but 74 years you're going to keep

1016
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,760
lying about something uh consistently

1017
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,440
day after day after dick

1018
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,839
bugs me so anyway we lost we lost him

1019
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:11,920
yeah we lost him and

1020
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:13,280
the

1021
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:16,640
uh

1022
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:20,319
doesn't lose sight of this in that

1023
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:24,079
uh i was recently uh down in los angeles

1024
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:27,280
and and uh i went out to dinner

1025
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,800
with uh linda uh whitley strieber

1026
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:34,079
richard dolan william henry and myself

1027
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,200
and so

1028
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:36,880
we're at the table

1029
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,440
and we're talking about uh

1030
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,920
the uaptf report this is just a few

1031
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,520
weeks ago and

1032
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,960
we're talking about that we're talking

1033
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,040
about disclosure and where we are today

1034
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:49,520
and and how exciting things are

1035
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:52,160
and then the conversation shifted

1036
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,040
and it shifted uh very quickly to

1037
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,839
stanton friedman and jim mars

1038
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:02,880
you know two guys that dedicated their

1039
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:05,359
life it goes without saying right i mean

1040
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,079
just dedicated their lives

1041
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,760
to the moment that we are living in

1042
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:11,040
right now

1043
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:12,079
and

1044
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,160
like paul that they're looking down at

1045
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,839
this right now

1046
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:20,480
and and are just as excited as the rest

1047
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,920
of us are but it just it it sucks man

1048
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:26,160
that that stanton can't be here it sucks

1049
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:27,040
that

1050
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,119
we've lost so many

1051
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,520
um but we took the moment to to

1052
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,520
recognize

1053
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,000
yeah jim jim of course died a little bit

1054
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,079
early because he had diabetes

1055
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,560
uh stanton made it to 85.

1056
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:45,760
uh and and by the way roger

1057
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:47,839
was coming to those events

1058
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,560
uh and talking to us and and meeting

1059
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,079
everything right up to near the end of

1060
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,079
his life never stop died of a heart

1061
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,920
attack in the in the doctor's office

1062
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,280
getting checked up so he could probably

1063
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,359
maybe get a few more years

1064
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,960
stanton said he'd retired but nobody

1065
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,359
believed that so he kept speaking to

1066
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,720
some more events

1067
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,640
he died in the airport back from

1068
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,640
speaking at a conference right in the

1069
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,359
airport yes uh this is the kind of

1070
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,560
people

1071
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,720
who have gotten into this issue

1072
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,720
and stayed with it right until the last

1073
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,319
days of their lives

1074
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,160
and so for those in government that

1075
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:22,079
think that we just need to kick the can

1076
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,359
down the road a little bit more and

1077
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,280
they'll all go away or if we can come up

1078
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,440
with a new cockamamie story to go away

1079
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:30,000
we're not going away we're never going

1080
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:31,520
away and we will

1081
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,480
prevail in this yeah and uh these are

1082
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,680
truly exciting times and uh

1083
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,760
speaking about

1084
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,359
excuse me

1085
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:43,440
this new uh series

1086
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,880
on netflix and the timing of things this

1087
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,000
is what i found interesting about it and

1088
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,400
then i want to jump into it

1089
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:55,040
uh is as deep as we can

1090
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:56,079
that

1091
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,680
this was shot two or three years ago at

1092
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,559
the international ufo congress

1093
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,920
and

1094
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,880
they're

1095
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:07,520
it's a it's a moment in time

1096
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,640
where everybody's mindset was different

1097
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,119
two or three years ago um

1098
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,359
and and where we are today

1099
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:17,440
and i think that that is that's actually

1100
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:20,640
a pretty cool part of this uh

1101
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,160
documentary series where we can all go

1102
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,240
and i mean richard dolan's in it you're

1103
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,720
in it alejandro rojas is in it mary

1104
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:31,119
rodwell and others

1105
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:32,640
where

1106
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,040
everybody was back then i think that's a

1107
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,880
that's an interesting way to look it's

1108
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:43,040
like a time capsule

1109
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:44,480
it's more than that let me expand a

1110
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,440
little bit

1111
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,520
uh they they have been filming that for

1112
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,119
three years

1113
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,280
uh they they filmed my interview not

1114
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,359
that long ago they came to my office in

1115
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,599
washington dc studio office that i have

1116
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,440
and filmed it right there

1117
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,839
and they're using software that allows

1118
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:00,640
you

1119
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,200
to put a a background behind the speaker

1120
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,520
uh without using a green screen

1121
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:09,680
this this technology is now available

1122
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,160
and so you see what the same background

1123
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:13,920
behind all the speakers but they're not

1124
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,760
they're not in front of that background

1125
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,880
and they're over there where they were

1126
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:19,040
so they they were filming right up until

1127
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,079
recently

1128
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,400
but clearly the material goes back so

1129
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,240
they've been doing it for three years

1130
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,160
huge amount of work went into this six

1131
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:27,920
part series a huge amount of work went

1132
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:31,200
into this again three years um

1133
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:32,079
and

1134
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:35,359
the things that were most notable to me

1135
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,680
is is that there must be 24 25 members

1136
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,119
of our community

1137
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,040
that are interviewed in this thing it's

1138
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,119
just everywhere almost everybody not

1139
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,960
every almost everybody but a very

1140
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,280
substantial representation of the people

1141
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,040
in the field uh which of course deserve

1142
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:55,920
to be in the in in such stocks

1143
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:57,920
and particularly this one because it is

1144
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,000
a netflix special that this is this is

1145
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,319
number five in the number top five of

1146
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,720
the what's being seen millions of people

1147
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,280
don't see this and so you've got the

1148
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,800
many people we know and our colleagues

1149
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,880
are getting some wonderful exposure on

1150
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,200
netflix now of course it's not the only

1151
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,040
series that just dropped

1152
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,880
as you know we've got another one that

1153
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,200
just dropped on showtime

1154
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,520
and this is a different approach this is

1155
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,040
the high-end

1156
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,359
uh this is this is the big boys uh big

1157
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,599
boys and girls getting involved here

1158
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,000
bad robot executive produced by uh with

1159
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:32,000
the executive bruce or jj ramsey and bad

1160
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,720
fj

1161
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,480
abrams and bad robot

1162
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,480
it doesn't get higher in this town than

1163
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:38,000
that no it doesn't

1164
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,599
he's double aimless

1165
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,040
uh and so

1166
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,160
he just put millions of dollars into a

1167
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:46,079
four-part series about this issue

1168
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:47,359
absolutely about this issue totally

1169
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,640
serious

1170
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,920
and that drops

1171
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,280
not only did it cost millions of dollars

1172
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:52,400
they're spending millions of dollars to

1173
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:53,680
advertise it

1174
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,680
now the other one is a series that was

1175
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,280
being put together by these two fellows

1176
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,800
i think they're from germany

1177
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,200
slogging away and i think what happened

1178
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:03,920
is i could be wrong but netflix was kind

1179
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,119
of aware of this and they said

1180
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,960
hey guys get in here let's get this

1181
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,720
thing done let's get it done let's wrap

1182
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:12,000
it up and we're going to drop it out

1183
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:12,800
there

1184
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,200
because netflix became aware that jj was

1185
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:16,880
going to drop his series

1186
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,680
and they they and so what they did

1187
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,440
uh and and he was going to drop it all

1188
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,240
all at once on showtime streaming

1189
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,240
and then on the showtime channel once a

1190
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,240
week which he's done

1191
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,359
they uh don't have a quote channel

1192
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:33,200
but they they have the streaming and

1193
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:34,480
they had originally said i think that

1194
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,839
they were going to drop it one a week

1195
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,359
for six weeks but then they changed that

1196
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,880
and dropped the whole six right away why

1197
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,559
because they're competing with jj for

1198
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,880
the eyeballs why are they doing that

1199
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,160
because

1200
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:46,880
this issue is now fully

1201
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,559
mature this is a happening thing and so

1202
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,720
you had the the new york times articles

1203
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,880
you had development slowly building

1204
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,960
after that and somewhere in this last

1205
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,160
four years

1206
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:59,920
the biggest guys in hollywood the

1207
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,280
biggest men and women in hollywood

1208
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:03,760
producers and what have you realized my

1209
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,559
god the biggest story of all time is

1210
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,800
getting ready to run

1211
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,400
and we are not going to sit on the

1212
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,440
sidelines and so there are projects all

1213
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:15,119
over this town

1214
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:16,880
and i don't mean just simple stuff i

1215
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:19,280
mean complex stuff multiple series

1216
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,160
documentaries films and so forth and

1217
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,559
some of the top people in this town are

1218
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:27,040
involved and that's not because gee they

1219
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:29,040
needed something to do

1220
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,720
or that you know we got to make a film

1221
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,960
what are we gonna no no everybody is

1222
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,960
trying to get on this bandwagon and so

1223
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,800
now you've got streaming services

1224
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,119
competing with who can get their stuff

1225
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,440
out the fastest and dropping it all at

1226
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:44,000
once uh because yeah

1227
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:46,000
we have this is the biggest story of all

1228
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,040
time it was 74 years ago it was 34 years

1229
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:51,520
ago and it is the same today and so i

1230
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,599
asked people to enjoy it

1231
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:55,839
watch it and appreciate that it took a

1232
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,800
long time to get to the point

1233
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,040
where the likes of jj abrams would put

1234
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,280
that kind of money behind a very

1235
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,160
high-end high production value dock

1236
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,480
that didn't feature lots and lots of our

1237
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:09,760
colleagues

1238
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,240
but did did cover some people we know

1239
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:14,400
particularly more recently a lot of

1240
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,720
witnesses and things like that so it was

1241
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,559
a different approach and i'm glad that

1242
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:20,559
they both dropped about the same time

1243
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,720
because people are seeing two sides of

1244
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,319
this they're seeing the very high end

1245
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,480
high production value version with

1246
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,400
within interviews of the latest

1247
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,319
witnesses and that's that's fine and

1248
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,480
then there's this other doc that's going

1249
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:33,680
through the whole history

1250
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,559
chronologically and you're seeing 10 15

1251
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,880
20 of the researchers and activists that

1252
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,200
we all know and love having their time

1253
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:43,359
on the camera so it's all good there was

1254
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:47,119
uh i don't sell the netflix production

1255
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,240
short

1256
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:50,880
because there were some things that were

1257
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:53,200
done obviously

1258
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,480
uh they

1259
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:56,800
i think there there were two checks uh

1260
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,440
czecho uh czechoslovakians

1261
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:01,359
uh they they go back

1262
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,240
and

1263
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,280
assemble

1264
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:08,000
some of the best animation uh

1265
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:08,800
to

1266
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:15,280
and it is really cool man it is really

1267
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:16,800
well done

1268
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:19,680
and and i really appreciated that but

1269
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,920
anyway as i'm watching i'm like man how

1270
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:23,680
much time

1271
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,720
was spent on this this is not

1272
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,480
you know a bunch of talking heads which

1273
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,200
is always great i really enjoy that and

1274
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,040
and then the credits roll

1275
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,880
that's that's not the case here they

1276
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,480
really uh

1277
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:38,960
artistically put this together

1278
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,240
for a very modern uh production it's

1279
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,640
it's really well done stephen

1280
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:46,480
it is it is it's

1281
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:49,359
uh again you you don't compare anybody's

1282
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,799
documentary to something to come out a

1283
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,960
bad robot or in in or set a slutter

1284
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,480
house you don't want that's just not a

1285
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,319
fair comparison okay

1286
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:58,559
uh but it's it's it's fine it is

1287
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,640
excellent and uh it has a lot of

1288
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,119
material i binge watched the whole thing

1289
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,720
that's almost four and a half hours and

1290
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,960
you to be relatively good

1291
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:08,480
to be able to binge watch something for

1292
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,520
that long

1293
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:12,319
so again we're but it's not it's this is

1294
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,119
this is the beginning of an onslaught

1295
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,880
of high level content that's going to be

1296
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,839
coming out of

1297
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:21,839
hollywood uh streaming services

1298
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,000
uh because this issue has arrived it's

1299
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,880
fully arrived and i think a lot of the

1300
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,160
top people in this town have a pretty

1301
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,160
good idea where it's going they have

1302
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,839
they have connections that i don't have

1303
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,920
i assure you they have people they can

1304
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:35,119
call like hey you know i'm thinking

1305
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,799
about doing a doc on the subject what's

1306
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,880
going on down there you know oh yeah

1307
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:40,240
right because these are these are

1308
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,040
multi-million hundred millionaires uh

1309
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:45,599
with very powerful friends so

1310
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:48,079
uh that's that's another reason why

1311
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:48,960
we're not

1312
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,480
this i mean we're going just forwards

1313
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,760
we're going to get the hearings we're

1314
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,920
going to get this closer now uh

1315
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,319
we've got about five minutes uh before

1316
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,799
the break and then we'll carry the

1317
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:03,680
answer to this question over into the

1318
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,960
next segment but you just said this town

1319
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:08,640
uh three times

1320
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,359
we all know that you are based out of

1321
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:14,559
washington dc but right now

1322
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:15,920
you're in the thick of things you're in

1323
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:18,480
hollywood california

1324
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,480
got some things to say about that uh

1325
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,839
after the break

1326
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,079
fairly important announcement uh i can't

1327
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,240
go into all the details that will come

1328
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,400
later probably not much later later this

1329
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,319
month but it's fairly significant

1330
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,160
development for prg

1331
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,760
and uh

1332
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:37,680
so i'll be telling you about that

1333
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:39,839
uh but i've been in hollywood now for

1334
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,000
about i don't know

1335
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,720
three weeks initially i was in a motel 6

1336
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,559
right off hollywood boulevard

1337
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:48,160
i spent a lot of time walking up and

1338
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:51,119
down hollywood boulevard the east end

1339
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,359
and and vine and let me tell you

1340
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:54,720
it's funky

1341
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,440
right yeah very really funky

1342
00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:59,359
it's very different but i i i've stepped

1343
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:01,760
on a whole lot of movie stars stars

1344
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,160
uh in the first like 10 days i was here

1345
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,079
but now i have a place and so anyway

1346
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,839
it's uh there's there's news here and i

1347
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,680
look forward to yeah and we'll talk

1348
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:10,799
about that

1349
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,839
this is uh um i have

1350
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:15,520
and like you you know i've been a part

1351
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,559
of hollywood and and the scene here

1352
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,880
since 1984.

1353
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,640
and uh that's a pretty long time and

1354
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,240
i've seen

1355
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:27,119
hollywood change but

1356
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:31,119
um i gotta say when i got here in in 84

1357
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:32,960
that area that you're talking about

1358
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,440
right now that was that was a real

1359
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,680
different world back then

1360
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,640
and

1361
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,359
hollywood will always have

1362
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,920
that certain character about it it's

1363
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:45,520
going to be the same way in a hundred

1364
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:46,480
years

1365
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,520
it was that way in the 50s

1366
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:52,240
it is just a very very

1367
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:55,599
uh interesting uh two or three miles of

1368
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,240
street it's it's it's pretty crazy uh

1369
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,240
certainly and now of course but now in

1370
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,720
west hollywood is where the action is in

1371
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,680
terms of outlet super deluxe stuff and

1372
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:08,000
and uh it's very nice and so forth and

1373
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:09,040
this is

1374
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:12,480
attention it really needs to get some

1375
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,440
attention

1376
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:15,280
because it's declining and it's not not

1377
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,640
shouldn't happen

1378
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,359
uh but this was the old hollywood and my

1379
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:21,280
studio apartment where i'm living in now

1380
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,640
is like just two blocks from the

1381
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:24,880
paramount studios i mean this is uh

1382
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,599
where it used to be a long time ago now

1383
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:29,599
um uh

1384
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,280
and i'm staying oh by the way i'm

1385
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,599
staying in a little studio that's in a

1386
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,599
cottage grouping

1387
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:37,440
that's where you have like little

1388
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,280
studios that are like uh one after

1389
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,520
another in a kind of a rectangle it's

1390
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,920
like a u it's shaped like a u the

1391
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:45,599
entrance is on the street that's the

1392
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:48,319
open end of the u that's right yeah

1393
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,160
someone's a rectangle it's a rectangle

1394
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,160
and it's all the nice little flowers and

1395
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,720
the plants are very nice all good this

1396
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,720
was built in the 20s

1397
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:58,559
uh and i just know

1398
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:01,839
that uh in the 30s and 40s whatever

1399
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,240
that some of the biggest stars that we

1400
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:07,200
know when they were just starting out

1401
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,440
probably lived it spent some time at one

1402
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:11,760
of these little studios so it's like a

1403
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:14,000
throwback in the 20s and i i love it

1404
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,280
right it's so cool uh so but let me be

1405
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:19,359
clear i've spent time in los angeles but

1406
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,240
marina del rey san pedro not in high i

1407
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:23,920
spent some time above sunset strip but

1408
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,240
let me tell you no no this is my first

1409
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,160
exposure to hollywood close up and

1410
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,240
personal you've been in there for 40

1411
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,160
years so i'm not a hollywood guy i

1412
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:34,640
consider myself an angelino because i

1413
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:36,079
know how to get around without getting

1414
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,920
stuck in the freeway which is critical

1415
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,760
if you're going to be an angelino but

1416
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,200
i'm not a hollywood guy i don't know if

1417
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,960
i ever will be but i'm going to be

1418
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:44,559
spending a lot of time here over the

1419
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:47,680
next many years i think when you tell me

1420
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,319
that you ate at uh popeye's chicken

1421
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:54,319
on hollywood and vine you know you

1422
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:56,880
dropped that on me you've arrived

1423
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,839
i ate a chicken sandwich there every

1424
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,240
single day for like six days i think i

1425
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:04,000
was addicted to them i hadn't really

1426
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:05,280
eaten those

1427
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:06,880
and i'm going in there and i'm slamming

1428
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:09,280
349 down yeah and of course the trick is

1429
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,799
you got to get in there before the line

1430
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:12,400
starts all right

1431
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,640
because it's covered time right and so i

1432
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,319
would i would i'd go by the line would

1433
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:18,000
be long so i'd cruise around some more

1434
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,359
walk up and down then i'd come back and

1435
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:21,839
i'd go in and they knew me by name

1436
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,480
right and so fortunately i've now moved

1437
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,960
far enough away that i'm i'm i'm getting

1438
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:29,040
down off the chicken sandwich thing but

1439
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:29,839
uh

1440
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:32,720
okay yeah here check this out

1441
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,160
all of those finely tailored suits that

1442
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,000
you see me wearing

1443
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:41,280
yes were purchased across the street at

1444
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,359
hollywood suit outlet

1445
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,200
that's where i get my suits

1446
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,359
they know me by name there too

1447
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:49,119
yeah there's several places there that

1448
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,200
are nice you know but in the mix of some

1449
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,680
things that are you consider like pretty

1450
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,319
cool and everything else you've got

1451
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,799
wow i mean it's it's crazy

1452
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:02,400
crazy all right oh man

1453
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,240
a lot of this depend on it i think once

1454
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,359
the pandemic is passed i think the city

1455
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:09,599
is going to get in and and tighten

1456
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:12,799
things up look there are tents all over

1457
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:15,119
east hollywood there there are tents on

1458
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:17,520
vine there are tents on romero uh

1459
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,000
sometimes groupings of six seven eight

1460
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:22,079
uh like there are mattresses that are

1461
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:23,520
down on the sidewalk and people are

1462
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,160
staying on the mattresses no tent

1463
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,799
there are people on hollywood boulevard

1464
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,480
that are sleeping on the sidewalk

1465
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:32,720
directly there's nothing they're just

1466
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:35,760
face down on the sidewalk out cold

1467
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:37,119
uh okay

1468
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,200
this is not good

1469
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:41,040
uh the pandemic is part of it all these

1470
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:42,480
tents are illegal but the police are

1471
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,079
just not bothering them because they

1472
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:46,400
just don't have an answer there

1473
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,880
and uh uh i get that

1474
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,799
uh and thank god tents are cheap and

1475
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,160
it's really possible to get a really

1476
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,920
cheap camping tent and that's been great

1477
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,960
for the people that are in this

1478
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,240
situation

1479
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,799
because before the tents were cheap

1480
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:00,799
they put together whatever they could

1481
01:02:05,029 --> 01:02:03,520
but it's really striking and i'm

1482
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:05,039
anticipating

1483
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:07,599
that we're going to see some help here

1484
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,640
uh i i hope they don't well the

1485
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,480
infrastructure package i hope it has

1486
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,640
something to help the people that are

1487
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,920
living in all the tents in east

1488
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:17,280
hollywood we're talking hundreds and

1489
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:18,960
hundreds and that's just a small section

1490
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,280
of east hollywood yes let's deal with

1491
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:22,880
this let's let's fix

1492
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,960
let's help the people that really need

1493
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:26,160
the help

1494
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:28,720
uh and uh and so they don't have to live

1495
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,000
in a tent

1496
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:32,240
illegally on the sidewalk of some of the

1497
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,839
best known streets in the country let's

1498
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,839
take our break right here this is fade

1499
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:37,440
to black our guest tonight stephen

1500
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:38,480
bassett

1501
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:41,200
wow when we come back we're gonna take a

1502
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,880
and we're gonna take a bit of a dive

1503
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:44,400
into this new

1504
01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,240
netflix uh docu series it's six episodes

1505
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,400
it is still trending on netflix so when

1506
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:51,920
you go to netflix you look at the top

1507
01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:54,240
ten it's right there click on it and

1508
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:56,480
check it out i'm yours timmy church this

1509
01:03:01,690 --> 01:02:58,160
is fade to black stay with us we'll be

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so

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[Applause]

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church on fade to black across the globe

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1614
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1615
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,910
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1616
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,080
jimmy church our guest tonight stephen

1617
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:30,239
bassetts

1618
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:34,400
and uh here's the deal hollywood is is

1619
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,839
jumping on things they've

1620
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,560
always

1621
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:40,400
you know we've had all of the

1622
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,679
uh alien and e.t contact drama movies

1623
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:45,359
and science fiction that we can handle i

1624
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:47,679
watch them all i enjoy them of course

1625
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,759
lots of uh documentaries and things but

1626
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:52,000
it's a different world today there's no

1627
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,120
doubt about it and i started to speak

1628
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,040
last week about everything that was

1629
01:09:01,910 --> 01:08:59,759
kicking off this week

1630
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:01,920
and not only did we get that but i just

1631
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:04,239
mentioned this new film it's called the

1632
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:05,679
11th green

1633
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,239
and it's a it's a tremendous film it's

1634
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:10,799
it's science fiction it's drama it's

1635
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:13,440
script based but it's well made and it's

1636
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,239
very very cool and i would suggest that

1637
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,120
everybody check that out too but now

1638
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,120
we've got stephen bassett somebody said

1639
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,199
go west young man stephen what brings

1640
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:25,279
you to hollywood

1641
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,159
um

1642
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:27,600
there has been a significant development

1643
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,199
for paradigm research group which i have

1644
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:32,400
not said anything about and i'm going to

1645
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,920
talk about it tonight for the first time

1646
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,520
on your show

1647
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,279
uh i i can say

1648
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,759
some about it i can't go into specific

1649
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,000
details until probably later this month

1650
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,000
toward the end of august

1651
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:46,319
but the upshot is this

1652
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,799
this began in march of this year

1653
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,440
some discussions and back and forth

1654
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,520
and it ended up resulting in paradigm

1655
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:55,040
research group

1656
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,400
is

1657
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:58,480
formed a partnership

1658
01:10:01,669 --> 01:10:00,000
with one of the major production

1659
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,679
companies in

1660
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:03,040
in hollywood

1661
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:06,159
uh to do multi-projects

1662
01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:08,560
including a documentary

1663
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:10,239
uh and more

1664
01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:13,520
um and so forth

1665
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,640
and the

1666
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,760
the people that are going to be attached

1667
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,920
to it are known people will a lot of

1668
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,679
people in this town will recognize them

1669
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,159
and so forth so this is high end this is

1670
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:24,080
about as high as you can get

1671
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,120
um

1672
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:27,360
and so i'm excited about it and so in

1673
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:29,920
order to service this new arrangement i

1674
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:32,480
now have a place on in hollywood as well

1675
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,000
as keeping my office in the national

1676
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:36,239
press building i'll be in both places

1677
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,679
i'm bicoastal

1678
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:39,520
i always wanted to be by coastal yeah

1679
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,199
and finally took a long time anyway um

1680
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,640
and one and one of the things that's

1681
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,719
part of this production deal is

1682
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,719
the disclosure wire which i've held off

1683
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,440
really launching i just didn't

1684
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,080
i i wanted to do it right i wanted it to

1685
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,159
be at a certain level and my i had a lot

1686
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,480
of limitations where i'm where i'm at

1687
01:11:01,669 --> 01:11:00,239
back in dc i have a nice little studio

1688
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,679
office and i could do it there but i

1689
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:03,199
didn't have the equipment i didn't have

1690
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,560
the expertise

1691
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,080
and so as part of this deal the

1692
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:08,320
disclosure wire will launch soon enough

1693
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:09,440
only

1694
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,360
it's going to have the finest equipment

1695
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,520
that you can have

1696
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:16,080
a studio is going to be its top top line

1697
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,520
and it's going there's going to be one

1698
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:19,760
in hollywood and there's going to be the

1699
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,520
studio is going to be fitted out

1700
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,040
in washington the national press

1701
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,280
building the the the great thing about

1702
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,440
that is that when it's possible to do

1703
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,080
live guests again which i hope is soon

1704
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:32,880
obviously it's easier to get people from

1705
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,600
the west coast to be live on a podcast

1706
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,760
interview uh then you have to cross the

1707
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:38,960
country and then of course back in

1708
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:40,560
washington i can get political people

1709
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,000
and get journalists so i'm hoping we're

1710
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,080
going to be able to develop a podcast

1711
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:46,080
with some very high-end people maybe

1712
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:47,360
people that have not talked about this

1713
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:48,880
issue before

1714
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,520
and and and they will be uh they will be

1715
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:53,760
filmed and recorded in the very high

1716
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:55,679
quality as possible and will develop us

1717
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,560
a podcast of value

1718
01:12:01,910 --> 01:11:59,760
because

1719
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:01,920
hey it's a podcast world now

1720
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,000
and uh uh i didn't want to just jump in

1721
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:05,840
unless i could offer something uh

1722
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:08,159
different and also a good quality so

1723
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,280
this is going to be part of this

1724
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,840
multi-production deal which i expect to

1725
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:12,960
be in

1726
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:15,920
the rest of my career uh i'm incredibly

1727
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:17,920
blessed that it happened

1728
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:20,239
and lucky to some degree

1729
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:21,120
and

1730
01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:23,840
you actually played a part in this

1731
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,400
which i cannot talk about tonight but i

1732
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,159
will at some point

1733
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,080
uh explain why you actually played a

1734
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:32,480
part in making this all happen oh well

1735
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:35,600
that's cool yeah yeah uh i didn't know

1736
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:38,000
about that uh

1737
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,280
so

1738
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:41,360
let's uh you know what let's have dinner

1739
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:42,960
and drinks i would love to hear

1740
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:45,840
absolutely i know i'll buy man i i owe

1741
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:47,360
you a big time and i will i will

1742
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,719
definitely buy

1743
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:50,960
uh dinner drinks at uh

1744
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,280
you're at your restaurant of choice oh

1745
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,360
i've gotta i've got i've got an idea

1746
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,360
where we can do that i'll knock a hole

1747
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:59,520
in that card okay i'm just letting you

1748
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,560
know

1749
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,880
okay you cool with that sure i'm cool

1750
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:05,760
okay all right everybody heard it

1751
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:09,840
uh i'll we'll we'll post uh the uh the

1752
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:12,560
the check online

1753
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,159
we'll post we'll post pictures from the

1754
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:16,320
dinner absolutely but this needs to be

1755
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:19,679
recorded now the uh

1756
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:20,960
the

1757
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,239
from somebody from hollywood

1758
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:28,400
is always pretty smooth and you're a

1759
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:29,760
smart guy

1760
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,719
so

1761
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,600
when you're hearing uh

1762
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:35,199
somebody pitch

1763
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:38,000
what are you looking for what is it that

1764
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:38,960
would

1765
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,239
uh you know uh get your interest

1766
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,320
you know and how how did you put this

1767
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,400
together

1768
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:48,080
hundreds of emails

1769
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,840
and uh many many hours of on the phone

1770
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,520
and then i came out for an additional

1771
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:56,000
shoot an initial shoot

1772
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,880
which will

1773
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:58,560
ultimately end up being the teaser

1774
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:01,360
trailer on this initial dock project

1775
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,560
and uh

1776
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:04,320
and then i came out again

1777
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,440
uh

1778
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:07,679
i'm looking for authenticity

1779
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,600
i'm looking for integrity

1780
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:11,760
i'm looking for no bs

1781
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,120
uh all of which you can find in

1782
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:14,880
abundance in hollywood

1783
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:17,679
but i assure you there are a lot of

1784
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:19,840
a lot of great people here

1785
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:20,880
and

1786
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:23,679
must

1787
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,480
interest all right uh but as i told my

1788
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:32,320
my new partner

1789
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,679
almost everything i know about hollywood

1790
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,679
comes from entourage

1791
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,199
and he told me oh yeah that's how i

1792
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,199
learned everything about hollywood too

1793
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:40,560
and i felt after watching that whole

1794
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:42,159
series man i could i could i could

1795
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,520
handle that but i can maneuver i know

1796
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,320
what to look for actually

1797
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,239
that's true that is very much how

1798
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:50,640
hollywood is at one level

1799
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:53,120
but that's not all it is and uh

1800
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,560
so

1801
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:56,480
uh seriousness integrity all of these

1802
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,040
things i have been incredibly lucky

1803
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:01,679
that i have found a person uh who

1804
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:03,520
represents another group

1805
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:06,640
who are he couldn't ask for better uh

1806
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:08,320
and a lot of these people are involved

1807
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:10,400
in what is now the new power center in

1808
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:11,840
washington

1809
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:14,320
and it is post production i don't know

1810
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:17,120
if you're aware of this huge shift

1811
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:17,840
but

1812
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:21,440
there was a time when the directors

1813
01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:22,880
always the actors had influence and

1814
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,280
power of course but directors had a

1815
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,040
great deal of uh

1816
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:29,840
power as well as the production people

1817
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:31,520
the people that are filming the lighting

1818
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,800
people on their union and they have a

1819
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:34,000
lot of influence

1820
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,440
that has shifted

1821
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,880
and the reason it shifted is quite

1822
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,600
simple post-production has become more

1823
01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:41,360
important to movies

1824
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,199
than the production

1825
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:45,360
and to give you an example

1826
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,199
i can't give a specific example but i

1827
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:48,960
mean i'm giving you a reasonable

1828
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,600
representation an example

1829
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,199
you can have a movie

1830
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:54,800
that goes for that

1831
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:58,239
that uh cost 200 million dollars to make

1832
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:00,080
and it'll go out and it'll make 600

1833
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:01,600
million right because these kind of

1834
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:03,360
pictures they can you know they can

1835
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,320
crash

1836
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:06,239
uh but the most they can lose is the the

1837
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:07,679
cost of the production whereas they can

1838
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,000
make three times you know that

1839
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,159
and they may spend 30 or 40 million

1840
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,560
dollars on the shoot

1841
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:15,760
right

1842
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,560
they'll spend 160 million dollars on the

1843
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:20,320
post-production

1844
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:25,360
specialist genius or a group they're in

1845
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,600
just do the math

1846
01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:29,440
your influence and power is growing and

1847
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,480
has been growing for a long time and and

1848
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,719
so i am fortunate that i'm really

1849
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,480
dealing in that world

1850
01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:38,640
uh so that while everything else is

1851
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,920
available

1852
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,719
uh

1853
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,719
i'm i'm hooked up with some of the best

1854
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:45,040
post-production people in the business

1855
01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:47,440
and um that really is

1856
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,560
you know again i'm i'm so lucky uh my

1857
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,159
only regret is i wish it was happened 20

1858
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:53,840
years ago

1859
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:56,000
but uh i'm not gonna [\h__\h] i'm not gonna

1860
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,960
complain so i look forward to to more

1861
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,480
announcements about this when i can get

1862
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:03,440
into specifics uh hopefully no later

1863
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,800
than the end of august very early

1864
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,000
september

1865
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,560
uh but i'm not the only one that is

1866
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,239
involved in big projects right now i'm

1867
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,719
not the only one that has suddenly been

1868
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,320
reached out to

1869
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,400
by uh by uh

1870
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:18,080
and i know of some rights i i just know

1871
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:19,440
of a lover of projects that are you

1872
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,800
can't talk about

1873
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,719
so this town is going crazy for this

1874
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,440
issue now there was another period when

1875
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,199
they things got a little rambunctious

1876
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:28,800
because i think some people in this town

1877
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,800
thought things were going to get cooking

1878
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:32,239
and i'm referring to the period of

1879
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:36,080
around 2002 2000 2001 2.

1880
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,679
this was a few years after the

1881
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:40,239
rockefeller initiative wrapped up

1882
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,600
uh

1883
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,480
and

1884
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:44,800
clinton was out of office

1885
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:47,040
bush won but still a lot of people in

1886
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:48,400
this town i think got pretty excited

1887
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:49,280
about

1888
01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:50,800
the rockefeller initiative and the fact

1889
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:52,640
there was effort to try to get the files

1890
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:53,920
and everything they thought hey wow this

1891
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,760
is happening cold war is over

1892
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,400
rockefeller was still alive and it was

1893
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,640
during that period about two year period

1894
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,320
when spielberg

1895
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:04,800
invested 100 million dollars

1896
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:07,280
to at that point produced the longest

1897
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,120
series ever

1898
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:11,280
for television sci-fi channel called

1899
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:12,400
taken

1900
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,400
which was a series ahead of its time it

1901
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,320
was about contact and it was about

1902
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:18,080
abduction and contact

1903
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:19,040
uh

1904
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,800
and it was serious it was not there was

1905
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,040
no comedy in this show at all

1906
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:25,440
and it also was about the truth embargo

1907
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:27,760
they represented the truth embargo in a

1908
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:30,400
theatrical way in which it was

1909
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:31,600
uh

1910
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,880
housed in a a group of a family

1911
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:36,719
father-son and so forth that were there

1912
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:39,040
were air force military and they were

1913
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,280
kind of the ones that were containing

1914
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,280
the issue and so forth obviously that's

1915
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:45,840
an extreme simplification but they did

1916
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:47,520
represent the fact that the government

1917
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:49,840
was hiding all this was was embargoing

1918
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:50,960
this

1919
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:53,600
20-hour series and

1920
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:56,800
uh as part of sci-fi's uh funding or

1921
01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:58,960
distributing of that i think sci-fi paid

1922
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:01,840
for spielberg of course was the producer

1923
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:03,760
so spielberg has obviously jumped into

1924
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:06,880
the issue 2002 huge

1925
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,600
and at the same time the sci-fi channel

1926
01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:11,840
put up the money to launch the coalition

1927
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,520
for freedom of information which was

1928
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:16,400
intended to go washington mainstream

1929
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:19,679
public relations uh company uh

1930
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,320
a high-end law firm they hired leslie

1931
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:24,719
kane to be the researcher this was

1932
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,840
inside washington beltway stuff and they

1933
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:29,840
interviewed me the interview didn't go

1934
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:32,080
too well so i didn't get brought in

1935
01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:34,239
which i can get because i'm a freaking

1936
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,880
crazy populist activist but the point is

1937
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:38,560
that this was a big deal and the

1938
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:40,239
coalition lasted for a while they had a

1939
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,199
website up there at the sci-fi channel

1940
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:45,600
so that was another example

1941
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,480
when

1942
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:48,480
hollywood thought something was going on

1943
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,360
and there may have been some other

1944
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:51,120
productions that i've forgotten about

1945
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:52,880
but things didn't happen

1946
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:55,040
we went off well the next year after the

1947
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:56,640
coalition for freedom inflation launched

1948
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,120
is when we we went to war in iraq

1949
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:00,640
which was probably not one of the better

1950
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:01,840
segways

1951
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:03,440
that the government government uh

1952
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:04,400
conducted

1953
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,719
and so it all slowed down

1954
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,080
and then

1955
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:10,400
uh eighteen years later step fifth bus

1956
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,280
2002 15 years later

1957
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:15,360
it starts again with the new york times

1958
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,040
articles and the emergence of the group

1959
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,440
out of the military intelligence complex

1960
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:22,000
and this was another level above that it

1961
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:23,920
was much higher than that and it it

1962
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,080
caught fire and is now

1963
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,600
pretty much heading right toward the

1964
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,520
conclusion so this is not the first time

1965
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:31,280
that hollywood has gotten

1966
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:32,800
the passion

1967
01:20:36,629 --> 01:20:34,880
but this time it's going to stick

1968
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:36,639
and i can assure you

1969
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,520
that

1970
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,440
all of the top people in this town are

1971
01:20:41,790 --> 01:20:40,880
already looking

1972
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:41,800
toward this

1973
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:45,120
post-disclosure world imagining what

1974
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,800
content would we

1975
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:49,199
uh put together what would we have ready

1976
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:50,800
to go out the door

1977
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:52,880
when all seven billion people on this

1978
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:54,400
planet learn they're not alone in the

1979
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:56,560
universe and we've got et's engaging us

1980
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:58,639
right now and their hair is all on fire

1981
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:00,480
i assure you they will not let that

1982
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:03,040
opportunity pass and god knows what kind

1983
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:05,760
of series streaming and otherwise are

1984
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:08,400
going to emerge out of this town at a

1985
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,280
time

1986
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,840
when we have the the production ability

1987
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,560
and the graphics ability to represent

1988
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:15,840
anything

1989
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:17,920
even if it's real but to represent it

1990
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,400
incredibly powerful so

1991
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,320
the post-disclosure world will even be

1992
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:23,840
more expensive than what we're seeing

1993
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,080
now how would you

1994
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:28,880
and i've thought about this so much

1995
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:30,320
how would you

1996
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:35,120
uh approach making a documentary today

1997
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,360
that would separate you from everything

1998
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:39,520
that has been done in the past if you've

1999
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:42,159
got you know if you've got a a canvas in

2000
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:44,320
front of you that that is clean and

2001
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:45,760
you've got a production company that

2002
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:48,400
says okay here you go michelangelo

2003
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,040
uh how do you approach it

2004
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:53,520
well play mr church

2005
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:56,480
uh now if i go there then essentially

2006
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,000
i'm getting into

2007
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:00,320
what i can't get into and let that be

2008
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:01,760
assured that

2009
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:04,320
the appropriate time i will give you

2010
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:07,360
uh some background as to how

2011
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,600
what will be announced came together and

2012
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:11,760
the approach and so forth uh but i can't

2013
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:14,080
do that now jenny but i will say this

2014
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:17,360
yeah absolutely we are trying to to do

2015
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,440
this in a different way

2016
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:21,040
uh approaching it from a different

2017
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:22,560
perspective

2018
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:25,760
with a a certain kind of tone

2019
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,560
uh that will take it to a place that

2020
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:30,320
it hasn't been before i mean that's the

2021
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,920
hope right i mean you know until it's

2022
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,440
done it's you don't know

2023
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:34,960
uh but

2024
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:36,800
one thing's for sure

2025
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:38,800
we're going to take it to a place that

2026
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:40,159
is worthy

2027
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:42,719
of this issue and its importance and

2028
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,679
worthy of the sacrifices made by so many

2029
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:48,000
people for 74 years

2030
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:50,080
um not that other documentaries don't do

2031
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:51,600
that i'm not

2032
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,679
uh all the docs to one degree or another

2033
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:55,199
are recognizing

2034
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:01,110
the the what what what needs to where we

2035
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:03,360
need to go as much as possible

2036
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:05,360
is to do something that is powerful to

2037
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,880
everybody

2038
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:09,040
not just to those that are knowledgeable

2039
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:12,239
so that anybody can walk er can can put

2040
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:12,960
this

2041
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:14,960
up to watch

2042
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:15,760
and

2043
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:19,280
haven't paid no attention they know

2044
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,400
something's going on they know what it

2045
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,480
is and when they watch it when they get

2046
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:24,320
done they are changed

2047
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,320
they are not the same person

2048
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:28,320
um and in other words

2049
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:31,199
remember disclosure is for everyone

2050
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:34,080
nobody gets to not get disclosure it

2051
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,440
happens it's done we're in the

2052
01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:36,960
post-disclosure whether you wanted to be

2053
01:23:40,229 --> 01:23:38,560
in the post-disclosure world it doesn't

2054
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:40,239
matter you're there

2055
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:42,400
and so everyone is going to be affected

2056
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:44,560
and so it's important to reach

2057
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:47,360
everyone if we can with this issue and

2058
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:49,199
we're getting to a point where that is

2059
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:50,159
now

2060
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,120
representation sci-fi representations of

2061
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:56,880
extraterrestrial life

2062
01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:59,520
we've reached everybody right who hasn't

2063
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,400
seen a an extraterrestrial film

2064
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,480
who hasn't seen some of these amazing

2065
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:06,480
movies they're worldwide so the

2066
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,639
fictional representation is totally out

2067
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:09,440
there

2068
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,719
now we need to get the reality of it out

2069
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:14,719
there to the same degree

2070
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,120
um i uh i think that that is the

2071
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:21,600
the ultimate goal for everybody uh

2072
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:24,960
certainly in in this space that we're in

2073
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:27,280
i'm talking about ufos and disclosures

2074
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:28,080
and

2075
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:34,080
uh

2076
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,840
some of the approach i haven't discussed

2077
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:37,280
it on the air we're not gonna do that

2078
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,400
now but some of the approaches that we

2079
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,000
have been attempting in these film

2080
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:45,280
projects that i'm involved in and

2081
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:48,239
trying to figure out

2082
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,080
the the best way to get to the most

2083
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:54,320
people inside of this community that's

2084
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,159
easy to do right people are going to to

2085
01:25:03,270 --> 01:24:59,760
go and see

2086
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:03,280
any new offering but how to reach out

2087
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:05,199
outside of

2088
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,719
the ufo community to those that

2089
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,480
have no idea even what the word

2090
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,199
disclosure is or what it means or or

2091
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:15,360
contact that you know these are people

2092
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,159
with busy lives they do go watch movies

2093
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:20,480
they know what entertainment is but how

2094
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:22,719
do we get to

2095
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,840
them how do we and that that's that's

2096
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,320
the biggest question right and

2097
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:30,400
we're approaching it with a couple of

2098
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:32,000
unique ideas

2099
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:34,159
um where we've had carte blanche and we

2100
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:36,880
can do anything that we want but it's a

2101
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:38,840
it's a difficult thing man it's a

2102
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:41,920
difficult uh process to

2103
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,560
to come up with an idea where you get

2104
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,880
the most bang for the buck without

2105
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:48,560
freaking people out

2106
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:52,159
and yes yes and we'll do the best we can

2107
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,280
but

2108
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,040
the simple

2109
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,280
calculus is this

2110
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:00,080
when multi-multi-hundred millionaire

2111
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:03,120
hollywood moguls

2112
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:03,840
put

2113
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,560
millions and millions of dollars behind

2114
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:08,800
high-end representations of the history

2115
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,000
of this

2116
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,000
and then spend millions of millions of

2117
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:14,239
dollars to advertise it so that the

2118
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:17,040
number of people that watch it is huge

2119
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:18,960
that's how you and and then also make

2120
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,120
sure it's distributed in china and in

2121
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,280
asia

2122
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:24,800
and whatever

2123
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:26,400
that's how you reach the people and

2124
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,760
let's face it

2125
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:29,840
we couldn't do that we simply couldn't

2126
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:32,239
do that the one thing we could do

2127
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,880
was to do the best we could to be true

2128
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,400
to the issue to be have as much

2129
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,719
integrity as possible and hope that one

2130
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,320
day

2131
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:42,239
these kinds of power

2132
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:43,280
centers

2133
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:49,360
we need to be part of that and hopefully

2134
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:51,520
include us because we are we do know a

2135
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,040
lot of stuff

2136
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:55,360
and that it just it's a significant jury

2137
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:57,920
is a degree is exactly what is happening

2138
01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:00,560
right now and so hey could it have

2139
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,800
happened sooner look we did the best we

2140
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,520
could i i remember not on years ago it's

2141
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:07,440
been a while and i don't want to pick on

2142
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,800
this guy i mentioned him a few times i

2143
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:10,239
have nothing against him

2144
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:11,360
and i think he's probably a wonderful

2145
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:14,159
guy but this guy murray milner is a huge

2146
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,920
wealthy russian

2147
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:17,040
and

2148
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,560
he made the decision

2149
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,639
i want to be part of this

2150
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,560
obviously who doesn't

2151
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:24,719
and the choice he made was to give a

2152
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:27,199
hundred million dollars to seti

2153
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:28,880
to look for radio signals that they

2154
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:30,840
apparently never found and still never

2155
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:33,679
have now it built i assume it built a

2156
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,120
lot of radio telescopes and they have

2157
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:36,880
other uses so it's not

2158
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:38,800
wasted per se

2159
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:40,480
but do you know what it meant if if

2160
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:41,840
somebody like that had put 100 million

2161
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:43,440
dollars into disclosure activist

2162
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:44,719
movement

2163
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:46,719
so that we could really lobby both

2164
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:49,199
hollywood and congress and the media

2165
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,159
and wear you know decent clothes and

2166
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:54,480
drive a decent car and maybe take them

2167
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,960
out to dinner or whatever to decent no

2168
01:28:01,750 --> 01:27:58,719
would have been fantastic

2169
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:01,760
it didn't happen uh it there's only been

2170
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,000
a couple of those kind of events

2171
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:06,320
and one of them really blew up one of

2172
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:08,560
them the gentleman died

2173
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:10,159
and yuri of course went there but

2174
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:11,840
there's billionaires all over the place

2175
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:13,199
look

2176
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:16,000
do i think that elon musk jeff bezos and

2177
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:17,120
uh

2178
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:18,480
richard branson know there's an

2179
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:21,840
extraterrestrial presence of course i do

2180
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:25,040
when you're a billionaire and you know

2181
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:26,800
heads of state

2182
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,920
and and and media stars and god knows

2183
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:31,760
who else

2184
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,960
uh you have people lined out lined up in

2185
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:36,960
front of your office wanting to get in

2186
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,280
and keep you off the stuff

2187
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:41,280
literally because if they can tell you

2188
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:43,120
something you don't know that could be

2189
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:46,320
very good for them and so the idea that

2190
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,600
either they didn't figure it out on

2191
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:49,360
their own or they weren't tipped off by

2192
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:51,199
any of their contacts in the in the

2193
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:53,040
military intelligence community or in

2194
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,560
the political world

2195
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,600
uh i'm sorry i just don't buy it so i

2196
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:59,440
believe they know now

2197
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:01,199
should they disrupt their life and all

2198
01:29:04,229 --> 01:29:02,880
their hopes and dreams and they have

2199
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:04,239
plenty to do and plenty of things they

2200
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,280
want to do

2201
01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:07,520
to uh to go there

2202
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,920
right like bob bigelow did who was also

2203
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:11,840
a very wealthy man

2204
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:14,320
pretty late 2017 went on

2205
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:15,280
60 minutes and said there's

2206
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:16,639
extraterrestrials here isn't that

2207
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,800
wonderful well he's the only one of that

2208
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,960
that that that uh

2209
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:23,440
that that group that has done that

2210
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:25,040
why didn't the others

2211
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:26,719
well look

2212
01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:29,040
a person leads their life they don't

2213
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:30,719
lead it because an activist wants them

2214
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:33,120
to do something and they had other

2215
01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:35,280
priorities they decided to focus on

2216
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:36,159
space

2217
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:40,719
a big economic sector and so forth and

2218
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:43,040
it's pretty sexy and it's very cool and

2219
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,560
so they've put huge amounts of money

2220
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:46,000
into

2221
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:50,000
as bigelow did

2222
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:51,520
have they ever backed the disclosure

2223
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:53,120
movement no they have not you know i'm

2224
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:55,280
aware of nothing zero

2225
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,600
now is that irritate me a little bit

2226
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:59,520
all right just a little bit

2227
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:02,000
uh but

2228
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,270
you're built well and then there's also

2229
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:09,280
the fact that they're doing a lot of uh

2230
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:12,239
work in civilian uh rocketry and so

2231
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,320
forth and tech

2232
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,480
and i got a very strong feeling the us

2233
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:18,400
government is way ahead of them and so

2234
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:20,560
they're essentially reinventing wheels

2235
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,920
while the government

2236
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:24,000
is is building this super advanced

2237
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:25,520
technology in

2238
01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:28,159
usap programs buried god knows how many

2239
01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:29,920
feet behind underneath the ground in the

2240
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,639
desert yeah that makes a lot of sense

2241
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:35,440
yeah it's deflection you know a good mid

2242
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:37,520
magician you know is going to do

2243
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,400
something with his right hand and

2244
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:42,480
the left hand is is where the real stuff

2245
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:46,639
is going on right and so elon and and

2246
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:50,080
and bezos allow that distraction for the

2247
01:30:52,709 --> 01:30:51,360
government i don't think there's any

2248
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:52,719
question about that and we've got to

2249
01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:54,320
take a break right here but let me say

2250
01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,719
this uh to your point

2251
01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:58,159
there's no way that you're not the

2252
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:00,960
richest person in the world

2253
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:03,280
and you don't know things

2254
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,120
that's it

2255
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:07,920
this is faded black our guest tonight

2256
01:31:10,629 --> 01:31:09,280
steven bassett i'm your host jimmy

2257
01:31:17,020 --> 01:31:10,639
church we'll be right back after this

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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always on the edge of the hottest

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headed do you wonder about the food

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supply i do disruptions in the food

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2336
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you are listening to fate to black with

2337
01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:12,229
hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

2338
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:15,119
jimmy church this is revolution the

2339
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2340
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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

2342
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,160
so

2343
01:36:04,470 --> 01:35:55,080
[Music]

2344
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:05,990
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2345
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:07,600
jimmy church i guess tonight's stephen

2346
01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:09,280
bassett more with steven in just a

2347
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:10,400
second we're going to talk to you about

2348
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:11,920
virtual shield

2349
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:17,280
telling you right now some of these

2350
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,320
great

2351
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:20,639
uh documentaries and things that have

2352
01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:22,560
been released over the last week

2353
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:25,760
limited to specific countries and

2354
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,679
uh not only inside of the united states

2355
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:29,280
but outside of the united states i

2356
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,320
wasn't

2357
01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:31,679
uh

2358
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,239
able to view them until i switched over

2359
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:37,199
to my vpn then i got to watch everything

2360
01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:39,920
that that's one of the benefits of a vpn

2361
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:42,000
the other benefit that is

2362
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:44,719
absolutely paramount is your privacy

2363
01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:46,880
your search history you don't want

2364
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:49,119
people to know out there that you're

2365
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:50,960
looking at

2366
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:52,639
looking for medical advice you don't

2367
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:54,880
want people to know this you're banking

2368
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:57,440
you don't want any of this known you

2369
01:37:02,390 --> 01:36:59,760
need a vpn you need your search history

2370
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,400
private you need your location private

2371
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:04,880
you can get all of that with virtual

2372
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:07,520
shield it is the only vpn that i use my

2373
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staff uses

2374
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every computer has its own vpn it's all

2375
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:15,119
simple to do click on the link in the

2376
01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:16,960
video description box below if you're

2377
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over on youtube it's right there click

2378
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on it you will get virtual shield vpn

2379
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for fifty percent off today fifty

2380
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percent off for life

2381
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right if you gotta punch it into your

2382
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,199
search engine do it virtual shield dot

2383
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:31,360
com forward slash fade to black we've

2384
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got banners and ads over on the website

2385
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click it'll take you straight there

2386
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:37,760
virtual shield for 50

2387
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:40,800
off today you need your own vpn this is

2388
01:37:45,189 --> 01:37:42,639
the world that we live in like you know

2389
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:45,199
steven bassett he's at an undisclosed

2390
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:46,560
location somewhere in the middle of

2391
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:49,600
hollywood and i don't know because he's

2392
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:52,320
running a vpn i guarantee it he's out

2393
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:54,800
he's out of washington dc he's got to

2394
01:38:00,870 --> 01:37:58,000
have his own vpn uh steven um i wanted

2395
01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:00,880
to give you this stays on the down low

2396
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:03,199
but you know what i'm about to say i'm

2397
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:06,480
gonna say it in encrypted fashion

2398
01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:09,920
but you know about the text that i sent

2399
01:38:15,830 --> 01:38:11,920
out earlier today

2400
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:15,840
i just got a reply and the reply said

2401
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:22,310
okay okay very good

2402
01:38:24,629 --> 01:38:23,119
uh

2403
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,639
but before we go on a little further

2404
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:26,080
though i want to address something i

2405
01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:27,440
want to leave it hanging that you said

2406
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:29,360
before the break

2407
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,440
i don't want to give them i i don't want

2408
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:33,119
to imply

2409
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:34,159
that

2410
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:38,000
civilian space work of

2411
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:39,440
branson uh

2412
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,320
bezos and and musk are

2413
01:38:47,109 --> 01:38:44,639
doing done to distract from what the

2414
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,119
government is doing uh in any

2415
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:48,880
intentional way they're pursuing

2416
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:50,480
civilians based projects that's what

2417
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:51,600
they want to do

2418
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:52,639
all right

2419
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:54,800
but it is worth note

2420
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:56,320
that

2421
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:59,119
if you want to to do what they're doing

2422
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:02,000
uh you you you have to have cooperation

2423
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,360
with the government

2424
01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:05,280
you just can't just go out in space

2425
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,560
right oh yeah i'm just i can send a

2426
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,400
rocket i'm it's a free country and i'm

2427
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:10,320
setting it up there you go no no no no

2428
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,920
you have got to have cooperates with the

2429
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:13,679
us government and so

2430
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:16,239
it's not in their best interest to

2431
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:19,520
shake that cage and i respect that

2432
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:22,159
so that may be a reason why these very

2433
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:24,880
brilliant very wealthy men have chosen

2434
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,600
pursue this very important field which

2435
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:29,840
is the commercialization of space and

2436
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:32,639
don't give the government a problem let

2437
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:34,639
you and me do that

2438
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:41,189
bob bigelow uh robert bigelow uh

2439
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:42,560
shook the world i think a little bit in

2440
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:45,280
may of 2017 when he said flat out on one

2441
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:47,360
of the best-known most popular

2442
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:49,679
news magazines in history there's et's

2443
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:51,840
here and said it twice

2444
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:54,880
um it was not long after that maybe a

2445
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:57,760
year and a half two years no it was

2446
01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,800
you know

2447
01:40:01,830 --> 01:40:00,320
certainly two to two and a half years i

2448
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,840
don't know i think the pandemic was just

2449
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:03,199
getting underway but somewhere around

2450
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,920
then

2451
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,040
he shot

2452
01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:07,119
bigelow aerospace down

2453
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:08,800
completely

2454
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:12,000
and now the space habitat program that

2455
01:40:16,390 --> 01:40:14,080
he was working on all those years is now

2456
01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:16,400
moving forward with under other

2457
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,760
companies

2458
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,040
now i don't know if he's ever been asked

2459
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:20,719
this on camera

2460
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,280
and i'm not suggesting he needs to be

2461
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:25,119
but

2462
01:40:28,950 --> 01:40:27,119
did why did he shut it down was it

2463
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,960
because of the pandemic which would be a

2464
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:30,960
reason he could it could lead hey can't

2465
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:34,080
do it or did uh he lose his nasty

2466
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:35,199
contract

2467
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:37,119
because he had the uh

2468
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:40,000
audacity to simply say the truth on 60

2469
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:41,840
minutes i it's a question that i don't

2470
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:43,119
think he'd want to be asking i don't

2471
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:44,560
think he'd want to answer

2472
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,920
but

2473
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:47,760
this is something that i mentioned

2474
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:49,360
because

2475
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:50,960
when you get up to the high level big

2476
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,440
money including hollywood

2477
01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:55,840
and you want to go certain places

2478
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:57,760
you have to address the government uh

2479
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:59,199
reaction to it and what it's going to

2480
01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:00,000
mean

2481
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:02,480
uh for your other projects and the

2482
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,719
bigger and the richer you are the more

2483
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:06,000
you have to lose

2484
01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:08,560
yeah i thought it was a very interesting

2485
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:11,360
and when the shutdown happened

2486
01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:12,639
there was

2487
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,639
uh an alluding

2488
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,199
to the pandemic that the production

2489
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:19,760
couldn't continue at the facility

2490
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:22,960
and uh he needed workers there to work

2491
01:41:27,430 --> 01:41:25,040
didn't have that ability

2492
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:27,440
um and and had to shut it down but it

2493
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:29,600
didn't restart and the building

2494
01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:32,400
the parking lot is is still empty

2495
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:34,719
and uh there's been a lot of comments

2496
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:36,080
about that now

2497
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:37,440
it was

2498
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:38,560
uh

2499
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:41,440
i think for somebody like bob

2500
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:42,400
to

2501
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:47,280
camera and go i don't i i don't question

2502
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:50,880
that e.t is here on earth like right now

2503
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,840
and that was a pretty bold statement to

2504
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:55,600
make it certainly

2505
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:58,719
with the position that he has been in uh

2506
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,199
for a couple of decades now uh you know

2507
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:03,920
going back to nids and

2508
01:42:09,669 --> 01:42:06,639
uh that group of people and of course uh

2509
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,679
atip and then that folding over and

2510
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:11,440
moving towards

2511
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:14,480
uh to the stars academy where

2512
01:42:19,109 --> 01:42:16,719
uh bob wasn't directly involved that we

2513
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:19,119
know of but certainly everybody around

2514
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,000
him

2515
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:23,040
was and well yeah that's another thing

2516
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:24,480
yeah he made that statement to 60

2517
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:25,760
minutes five months before the to the

2518
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:28,080
stars academy announced yep he had to

2519
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:29,119
have known they were going to go to the

2520
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,639
new york times with that story and he

2521
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:32,560
had to know that he was going to be out

2522
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,159
as uh the researcher on the a-tip

2523
01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:36,320
program and so he knew he was about to

2524
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,719
be tied to this major project i i'm

2525
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:40,400
almost certain of that

2526
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:42,639
and so by

2527
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,639
and so why did he make that statement to

2528
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:46,639
60 minutes because he would have he knew

2529
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:47,920
in advance they were going to ask him

2530
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:50,159
about his ufo interest clearly that was

2531
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,280
and they would have told him that it's

2532
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:53,280
not nothing unusual about that he had

2533
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:54,800
plenty of time to decide how to handle

2534
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:56,400
it and that's how we chose

2535
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:57,360
um

2536
01:43:01,590 --> 01:42:59,760
so i think i i have stated that i think

2537
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:01,600
one of the reasons he did that

2538
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:03,520
is that he knew that the two of the

2539
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,440
stars academy people were under some

2540
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,840
pretty strict rules of engagement

2541
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:08,960
they couldn't just come out and say

2542
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,960
there's extraterrestrials here

2543
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:12,560
that wasn't their

2544
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:16,719
was to get the president to say it which

2545
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,320
means getting hearings

2546
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,560
and and and they're saying it wasn't

2547
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:22,320
going to bring about disclosure but it

2548
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,760
was going to create a lot of problems

2549
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:25,280
with their supporters within the

2550
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:27,440
pentagon and elsewhere so they couldn't

2551
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:29,760
say that they couldn't they had to be

2552
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,560
pretty

2553
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,800
responsible about how they moved forward

2554
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:34,800
uh but he didn't

2555
01:43:39,350 --> 01:43:37,199
and so he said it and so i i'm thinking

2556
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,360
he's thinking that when they announce

2557
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,520
and come out based on my attachment to

2558
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:43,119
the a tip and everything else and my

2559
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,639
saying there's et's here everybody's

2560
01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:46,320
going to figure out well lou knows

2561
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,320
there's et's or mellon knows there's etc

2562
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:50,800
but they can't tell us right so and

2563
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:52,639
whether he knew that was going to cause

2564
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:54,639
a problem for him i don't know

2565
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,520
but i know this that his space habitat

2566
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,159
work was his joy he loved it

2567
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:02,400
that was joy to him he really thought he

2568
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:04,080
was doing something special

2569
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:06,639
and he had great pride in it

2570
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:10,400
and i don't think he just closed it down

2571
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,800
because gee he was afraid of because i

2572
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:14,159
assure you a lot of the manufacturing

2573
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,280
went on

2574
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,679
uh and other companies are now doing

2575
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,199
that research and i i think they

2576
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:21,040
probably took it up right away

2577
01:44:25,990 --> 01:44:24,719
i look if bob bigelow lost his nasa

2578
01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:26,000
contract

2579
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,239
to put those habitats out and be one of

2580
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,320
the great space on uh space uh

2581
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,639
commercial space entrepreneurs

2582
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:34,400
then that needs to be known

2583
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:36,560
we need to know when people make those

2584
01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:38,800
kinds of sacrifices in service to the

2585
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,920
truth

2586
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,600
and i have a i have a strong feeling

2587
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:43,119
that that's what happened and i hope

2588
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:45,840
that one day it's properly acknowledged

2589
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:48,960
well and and ttsa uh

2590
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:51,679
in general everybody around ttsa and

2591
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:54,400
that that even includes uh you can go

2592
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:57,119
all the way to the ua ptf report

2593
01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,560
in that when christopher mellon uh

2594
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:02,400
on the live stream the announcement of

2595
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:04,080
ttsa when he stepped up to the

2596
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:05,520
microphone

2597
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:08,239
and he said clearly this is you know he

2598
01:45:12,790 --> 01:45:10,560
had the picture of of of whatever behind

2599
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:12,800
him but he said clearly this is not an

2600
01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:17,840
experimental us aircraft but whose is it

2601
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,520
that was always you know we don't know

2602
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:23,920
we don't know but we're going to find

2603
01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:26,800
out you know we need to we don't know

2604
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,719
right this was repeated over and over

2605
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:30,960
again it was the opposite

2606
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,600
of what bob bigelow said

2607
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:35,600
exactly the opposite but i'll say this

2608
01:45:39,950 --> 01:45:37,520
if you were to go watch all the videos

2609
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:39,960
in my video compilation on my website

2610
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:42,719
paradigmresearchgroup.org i've got 160

2611
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:45,679
interviews statements by them news clips

2612
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:48,480
and so forth a lot of material

2613
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:51,920
george suclocas is all over this

2614
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:53,840
you want to know what i mean by that

2615
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:55,520
yeah yeah i do

2616
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:58,639
because over and over again you're

2617
01:46:02,149 --> 01:46:00,800
getting the same message from

2618
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:02,159
pretty much every one of these

2619
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:03,520
individuals

2620
01:46:06,830 --> 01:46:06,159
we're not saying it's extraterrestrials

2621
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:06,840
it's

2622
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,760
extraterrestrial right right right and

2623
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:11,600
and that's the rules of engagement and

2624
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:13,679
okay i'm fine with that as long as we

2625
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,440
get to the goal as long as we get to the

2626
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:17,360
finish line i'm fine with that but let

2627
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,800
me tell you

2628
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:20,719
i don't think initially they they they

2629
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,400
thought that what they were about to do

2630
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:24,719
was going to culminate about five months

2631
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,400
from the time they launched

2632
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:27,760
and then they would have been in clover

2633
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:28,960
probably with a whole bunch of money

2634
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:30,400
raised and able to do all kinds of fun

2635
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:32,239
things yeah certainly so when the

2636
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:34,080
election went the other way

2637
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:36,080
it hung it all out to dry and so

2638
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:38,159
essentially what was a five-month you

2639
01:46:44,070 --> 01:46:41,679
know quick march to glory ended up being

2640
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:44,080
a four-year slog

2641
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,719
where they were kind of

2642
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,600
hanging out really unable to go forward

2643
01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:52,320
like they would can't go backward uh

2644
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,239
being attacked from all directions

2645
01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:56,159
basically you know targets for everybody

2646
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:57,760
that wanted to shoot at them

2647
01:47:01,750 --> 01:47:00,159
uh and having to and and their families

2648
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:01,760
having to go through this

2649
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,320
i don't think that they were getting uh

2650
01:47:08,229 --> 01:47:06,480
there was reigning government contract

2651
01:47:09,830 --> 01:47:08,239
offers on them after they came out with

2652
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:09,840
a ttsa and you know every one of those

2653
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:11,920
people could get contract deals and make

2654
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:13,840
nice money retirement anytime they

2655
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:16,560
wanted to i i imagine that got affected

2656
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,639
and possibly they lost this entire

2657
01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:19,920
program

2658
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:21,600
this has been very tough on them they've

2659
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:24,000
made a lot of sacrifices and

2660
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,159
the internet's not very forgiving about

2661
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:28,239
that once the internet decides that they

2662
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:29,520
don't like you they don't give a damn

2663
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,880
what sacrifices you're making they're

2664
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:32,719
just going to piss on you yeah right

2665
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,600
whatever they can yeah and uh i want to

2666
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:37,679
stay on this for a second if if if we

2667
01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:38,719
may

2668
01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:42,000
um because you bring up a great point

2669
01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:44,159
where we had

2670
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:46,800
three and a half almost four years

2671
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:51,199
of total media engagement total had it

2672
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:54,000
we had it uh uh news we had it on the

2673
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:55,600
internet we had

2674
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:56,400
uh

2675
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:00,800
involved and of course

2676
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:04,159
uh ending with the uaptf report uh on

2677
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:06,159
june 25th

2678
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:10,159
huge coverage daily it was everywhere

2679
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:13,119
and now it's crickets

2680
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:14,960
why is it why why

2681
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,000
why the downturn

2682
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:19,679
media

2683
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,400
is uh relatively predictable they they

2684
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,719
want to cover and write about stories

2685
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,639
that are going someplace

2686
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,679
um and happening things right

2687
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:31,760
uh if it's if it's a crash of an

2688
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:33,760
airplane well obviously that's uh

2689
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:35,760
intense for a short amount of time and

2690
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,560
then they move on right but

2691
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:39,920
it needs to be

2692
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:41,840
not only current but going someplace for

2693
01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:44,080
them to really get involved well this

2694
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:45,600
thing was going someplace and they knew

2695
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:49,199
it and so they covered it extensively

2696
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,400
and it it generally kept going there was

2697
01:48:56,870 --> 01:48:55,040
new things the the the these fellows

2698
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:56,880
were doing what they could do they they

2699
01:49:01,910 --> 01:48:58,880
kept it alive the podcast world kept it

2700
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:01,920
alive too so okay so it we got a

2701
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:04,880
thousand articles plus mainstream from

2702
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:08,480
uh november october of 2017 to the

2703
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:10,880
present and i have links to

2704
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:13,040
all 1000 on my website almost well

2705
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:14,400
thousand a

2706
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:15,840
significant portion of all the ones came

2707
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:16,719
out

2708
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:17,599
but

2709
01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:19,440
the pandemic

2710
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:20,400
really

2711
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,400
changed a lot and

2712
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:24,400
the need to focus on that is huge and

2713
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:26,880
they are there's that it also slowed

2714
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:28,719
down the disclosure movement disclosure

2715
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:29,679
work

2716
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:31,679
it made it made the hearings much more

2717
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:34,480
difficult and delayed them

2718
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:36,400
and and then

2719
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:37,199
uh

2720
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:40,000
and this is where rubio is genius worked

2721
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:41,040
out

2722
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:43,360
one of the reasons that the

2723
01:49:47,830 --> 01:49:45,599
coverage continued

2724
01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:47,840
well into 2021 it might have died out a

2725
01:49:51,669 --> 01:49:49,599
lot sooner because the pandemic was

2726
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:51,679
taken over right and the political

2727
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:54,560
situation was completely blowing up you

2728
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:57,119
may recall a lot of people raided the

2729
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,800
capitol and tried to get into the

2730
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:00,480
kitchen and make themselves lunch and

2731
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:03,280
dinner so uh it could have ended but but

2732
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,280
rubio in his genius

2733
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:07,280
he he makes this important maneuver he

2734
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,199
says look we want to report back from

2735
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:11,360
key agencies covering this and that and

2736
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:13,199
everything else a lot of people think

2737
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:14,800
well that could be interesting put a

2738
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:17,440
180-day deadline on it which after from

2739
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,960
the signing of the bill which put it at

2740
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:20,320
june 25

2741
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:22,719
but the announcement about that maneuver

2742
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:26,320
was in july of 2020 literally the

2743
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:28,080
the military intelligence complex had a

2744
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:29,840
full year to contemplate

2745
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,159
uh what to do about this request and the

2746
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:33,840
media had a full year to cover it and

2747
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,760
they did you give the media something

2748
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:37,440
like that where there's a specific date

2749
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,719
that the government's going to reveal

2750
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:40,480
something that could be very important

2751
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:42,719
that's a no-brainer and so by doing that

2752
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,880
he extended the media coverage all the

2753
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:47,119
way up to june 25. now when the report

2754
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,480
drops

2755
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:50,239
it's not a big deal i didn't expect it

2756
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:51,280
to be

2757
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:53,119
and then the major classified report

2758
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:56,000
which is a big deal is classified

2759
01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:59,199
right there the media is going okay

2760
01:51:02,470 --> 01:51:01,599
but it's time to take a break

2761
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,480
right

2762
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:04,159
there's not really much going to happen

2763
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:05,360
for a while

2764
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:08,000
uh we're waiting for the congress to do

2765
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:09,199
something we're waiting for maybe

2766
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:11,040
another report from the government and

2767
01:51:14,950 --> 01:51:13,360
so the media drops off

2768
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,960
and because they've got a lot of other

2769
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:16,719
things to do

2770
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:18,480
that's not surprising at all i've

2771
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,239
chronicled it i've seen it does that

2772
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:22,159
mean that they're out of the game oh no

2773
01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:25,679
no no not at all it just means that they

2774
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:26,960
they there's a lot to cover in this

2775
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:28,560
world and they're they're focusing on

2776
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:31,280
that but the moment this thing picks up

2777
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,239
again

2778
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:35,199
in other words the moment warner rubio

2779
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:36,400
together

2780
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:37,840
announced that they are going to start

2781
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:40,639
the hearings on this subject covering

2782
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:41,760
all the stuff that we've been hearing

2783
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:43,599
about focusing almost certainly on

2784
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:45,280
military witnesses

2785
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:47,199
the media is going to go

2786
01:51:53,350 --> 01:51:50,080
boom and they will be back in with a

2787
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:53,360
vengeance have no fear of that uh i i

2788
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:54,639
went back

2789
01:52:02,870 --> 01:51:58,080
and watched

2790
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:02,880
uh some of the news coverage uh from uh

2791
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:06,800
2020 about the uap tf report and the

2792
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:08,880
announcement of the task force

2793
01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:11,840
and what they were tasked to do and as

2794
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:14,080
we know the media

2795
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,920
is is going off a certain set of words

2796
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,520
it goes out to all of the networks and

2797
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:21,360
they repeat it so it doesn't matter what

2798
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:22,960
network you go to

2799
01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:24,880
the talking heads are going to be

2800
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:27,440
reading verbatim off of the same script

2801
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:30,239
and the script that they were given if

2802
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:32,719
you go back nine months ago

2803
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:37,040
uh was uh repeated over and over again

2804
01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:37,840
that

2805
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:39,840
the department of defense and the

2806
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,320
defense intelligence agency has been

2807
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:44,719
tasked by congress

2808
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:48,880
to disclose everything that they know

2809
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:51,360
about ufos right and that's what that's

2810
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:52,880
not what they were telling no and that

2811
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:56,239
was repeated over and over again now the

2812
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:59,040
public hears this it's like holy crap

2813
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:00,560
everything

2814
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,400
so what it what is it that they are

2815
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:03,840
going to disclose they can't do

2816
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:06,000
everything but they've been told

2817
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,400
to disclose everything

2818
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:10,960
and and i watched this over and over

2819
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:13,599
again stephen and that was the message

2820
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:16,480
going out to the public now

2821
01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:19,360
the report didn't disclose everything

2822
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:21,199
that the dia

2823
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:23,599
uh and the department of defense knows

2824
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:26,480
about ufos the exact opposite happened

2825
01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:29,440
of course but that was the message

2826
01:53:32,870 --> 01:53:31,599
going back almost a year ago all right

2827
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:32,880
well look this is a there's a lot of

2828
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:34,960
moving parts in this process and so

2829
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:39,119
don't don't don't be shocked if if

2830
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:42,159
one of the aspects gets a little weird

2831
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:44,719
this is a big project uh let's look at

2832
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:46,560
it strategically first of all if you

2833
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:48,400
want to know what the the intel

2834
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:50,159
committee requested go read the

2835
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:52,480
appropriations bill the language in it i

2836
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:53,520
could bring it up and read it to you

2837
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:55,840
right now if you want and it wasn't

2838
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,360
everything that they know it was

2839
01:54:01,270 --> 01:54:00,159
actually uh limited to certain areas uh

2840
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:01,280
and uh

2841
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:04,320
it not it was somewhat comprehensive

2842
01:54:08,149 --> 01:54:06,320
but as i said it didn't it didn't have

2843
01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:08,159
in it and if you have any crash et

2844
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:09,840
vehicles we want you to bring the damn

2845
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:12,639
wreckage here right uh to washington so

2846
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:15,360
we can expect inspect no no no

2847
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:16,960
it got blown up

2848
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:18,880
not not necessarily by the media right

2849
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:20,639
away but it got blown up in the public

2850
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:21,760
sector and then they're interviewing

2851
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:23,360
public people the people are saying yeah

2852
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:24,400
they're going to tell us everything we

2853
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:26,000
know and so it

2854
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:26,880
but

2855
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:29,040
and by the way that's editorially

2856
01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:31,119
not particularly rigorous

2857
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:33,440
but if you're the news people you're

2858
01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:34,960
going well you know that story

2859
01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:36,320
everything they know is going to get a

2860
01:54:40,709 --> 01:54:38,000
hell of a lot more eyeballs that's

2861
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:40,719
exactly my point that's exactly my point

2862
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:43,199
that was the intended message

2863
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,560
to go out uh you know almost as a status

2864
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:47,920
quo

2865
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:51,520
right and every man every woman

2866
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:52,560
uh

2867
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:55,920
situation that was the message to go out

2868
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:57,679
and it was it was pretty clear by the

2869
01:55:01,350 --> 01:54:59,520
media i think a journalist would have

2870
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:01,360
been in favor of that message but the

2871
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:04,560
strategy is trickier than that uh again

2872
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:06,639
most people don't think about this this

2873
01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:08,560
way it's my job to think about it this

2874
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:10,239
way and tell you and you know i'd get

2875
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:12,000
great if you don't no problem

2876
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:14,080
but you see rubio

2877
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,679
who was the rank it was the chairman of

2878
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:17,520
the time and she's he's the head guy

2879
01:55:20,149 --> 01:55:19,040
that committee though it's a bipartisan

2880
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:20,159
committee it's the most bipartisan

2881
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:21,520
committee in congress

2882
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:22,960
rubio could have simply requested a

2883
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:24,560
classified report

2884
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:25,440
and that would have been fully

2885
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,080
appropriate we want to be told uh

2886
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,320
updated on your policies and so forth

2887
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:32,400
and this and that and you know well

2888
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:35,199
these agencies to to respond in some way

2889
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:36,480
if you read the language that's really

2890
01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:38,000
what they're asking for

2891
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,679
tell us what's going on give us a sense

2892
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:41,679
of what your policy is and all this he

2893
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,880
could have done it said yeah and we want

2894
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,560
a classified report

2895
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:47,679
but he put in a public report request as

2896
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:50,239
well now rubio would have known i

2897
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:51,920
absolutely knew

2898
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:54,320
there was no way that the department of

2899
01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:55,840
defense was going to put anything in a

2900
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,760
public report that was going to shake

2901
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:59,520
anybody's trees or rattle anybody's

2902
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:01,440
cages they're not going to do that they

2903
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,840
can't do that it's not their job it's

2904
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:05,920
you know they it's just not appropriate

2905
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:07,520
they're not going to do it so why did he

2906
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:08,719
do that

2907
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:11,520
because he knew that if he asked for a

2908
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:13,520
public report no matter what the hell

2909
01:56:17,430 --> 01:56:15,280
they were going to finally come up with

2910
01:56:19,310 --> 01:56:17,440
and remember he was asking for this in

2911
01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:19,320
july of

2912
01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:20,960
2020

2913
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:23,599
uh the deadline ended up being june 25

2914
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:26,320
because the bill wasn't signed december

2915
01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:29,119
he is guaranteeing a whole bunch of

2916
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:31,280
media coverage that wouldn't necessarily

2917
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:33,360
wouldn't be there if it was just

2918
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:35,920
we're waiting on a classified report

2919
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,320
the public report meant that the press

2920
01:56:41,430 --> 01:56:40,159
had to stay with it and the public was

2921
01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:41,440
going to get excited and that was going

2922
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:43,679
to excite the press and it kept the

2923
01:56:49,270 --> 01:56:45,599
story going and kept it going

2924
01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:49,280
beautifully now as it happens that was

2925
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:52,320
very helpful to marco rubio's political

2926
01:56:57,990 --> 01:56:55,360
aspirations and marco rubio's image

2927
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:58,000
so it was a great thing for him

2928
01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:59,920
it was a good thing for us because we

2929
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:02,719
want that news coverage all right

2930
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,480
uh but when we didn't get much i wasn't

2931
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:08,639
surprised at all other people were

2932
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:10,480
disappointed which wasn't a bad thing

2933
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:11,520
because they're channeling their

2934
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:13,599
disappointment into irritation meaning

2935
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,360
okay damn it then we want more the next

2936
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:17,440
time or let's hold these hearings

2937
01:57:20,629 --> 01:57:18,880
and so i think ruby he'll probably

2938
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:20,639
realize everybody's going to win if i

2939
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:22,400
make this little side maneuver and ask

2940
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:25,440
for this public report and so but what

2941
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:27,840
we didn't get buckets

2942
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,000
all right what we got

2943
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:32,159
was uh a a

2944
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:34,560
two fundamental statements

2945
01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:36,400
which are important particularly if you

2946
01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:39,360
understand the issue not only that

2947
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:41,440
and and this is where the

2948
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:43,920
dod is doing its own uh how would you

2949
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:46,080
say strict strategies

2950
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:47,280
uh

2951
01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:49,280
we they get they provided the classified

2952
01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:52,159
report on the june 16 400 pages we know

2953
01:57:55,270 --> 01:57:54,320
it's 400 because louis lozando looked at

2954
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:55,280
them all

2955
01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:58,239
and and told his attorney all right

2956
01:58:02,390 --> 01:58:01,119
uh so it's 400 it's not 73 and it's not

2957
01:58:03,669 --> 01:58:02,400
17.

2958
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:03,679
uh and

2959
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:05,440
uh so that was

2960
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:08,080
june 16th but on june the 3rd

2961
01:58:12,149 --> 01:58:10,480
a leak from somewhere out of nowhere but

2962
01:58:13,589 --> 01:58:12,159
it had to be a good source because the

2963
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:13,599
new york times

2964
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:17,440
uh took that leak and published it

2965
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,360
saying here is

2966
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:21,199
some things to expect from the public

2967
01:58:26,390 --> 01:58:23,679
report so they leaked a little about the

2968
01:58:28,070 --> 01:58:26,400
public report on the 3rd of june and

2969
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:28,080
that would have generated news and

2970
01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:30,320
interest incitement okay and what was

2971
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:32,639
that leak it said that and you can find

2972
01:58:37,109 --> 01:58:34,719
the article on my website june iii new

2973
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:37,119
york times said that the

2974
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:38,320
uh

2975
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:40,080
the report the public report is going to

2976
01:58:43,589 --> 01:58:41,760
indicate that

2977
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:43,599
uh

2978
01:58:48,310 --> 01:58:45,760
in all the 140 cases or so that they

2979
01:58:51,030 --> 01:58:48,320
looked at there was no indication or

2980
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:51,040
confirmation of extraterrestrials

2981
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:54,560
but the technology represented in some

2982
01:58:58,550 --> 01:58:56,800
of those sightings is not technology

2983
01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:58,560
that currently is in the possession of

2984
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:01,280
the united states

2985
01:59:06,629 --> 01:59:04,880
so wow most people would go well uh

2986
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:06,639
people like you and me go

2987
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:08,880
what did that just say it said it's not

2988
01:59:11,870 --> 01:59:10,000
accident we're not saying it's

2989
01:59:14,629 --> 01:59:11,880
extraterrestrials but it's

2990
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:14,639
extraterrestrial and so okay that was

2991
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:17,040
cool and when the report came out that's

2992
01:59:21,430 --> 01:59:18,880
exactly what it said it had some other

2993
01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:21,440
things in there a bunch of acronyms and

2994
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:23,679
and dod speak but basically those were

2995
01:59:26,950 --> 01:59:24,880
the two key points they'd already

2996
01:59:29,270 --> 01:59:26,960
announced them right and so it's

2997
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:29,280
generating maximum news coverage maximum

2998
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:30,560
public interest

2999
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:33,440
which is good but it's not it's not

3000
01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:36,880
breaking uh any major ground

3001
01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:39,119
it's not putting the dod in a spot and

3002
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:40,719
it's certainly not affecting congress it

3003
01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:43,360
got the private report and so the

3004
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:45,440
strategy is this if you're the dod is

3005
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:47,520
following exactly the right strategy

3006
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:49,199
it's not our job to tell the public

3007
01:59:52,070 --> 01:59:50,719
about this issue it's the job of the

3008
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:52,080
president to tell the public he's the

3009
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:54,800
one to declassify this stuff we can't

3010
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:57,280
two the congress needs to be involved so

3011
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:59,119
our job is to provide information to the

3012
02:00:02,870 --> 02:00:01,040
congress classified so they can decide

3013
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:02,880
what to do about that information and if

3014
02:00:05,189 --> 02:00:04,159
they decide to have hearings then

3015
02:00:07,109 --> 02:00:05,199
information will come out in the

3016
02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:07,119
hearings and that's not our job either

3017
02:00:11,350 --> 02:00:10,239
so they're offloading it as they should

3018
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:11,360
right

3019
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:13,360
and then the congress will decide to

3020
02:00:16,790 --> 02:00:15,199
leak it if they leak it or reveal it if

3021
02:00:18,709 --> 02:00:16,800
they reveal it and the congress will

3022
02:00:21,270 --> 02:00:18,719
decide to have hearings and the hearings

3023
02:00:23,189 --> 02:00:21,280
and all of this ultimately puts the onus

3024
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:23,199
not the onus but it puts the ball in the

3025
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:25,199
president's court who's who not

3026
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:26,960
surprisingly is staying completely out

3027
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,159
of this

3028
02:00:32,470 --> 02:00:30,480
to then examine the same information and

3029
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,480
say there's extraterrestrials here and

3030
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:34,639
so the strategy is going exactly as it

3031
02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:35,679
should

3032
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but unless you were attuned to that

3033
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unless you know a good deal about this

3034
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the average person is going to go you

3035
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know this is irritating i expected to

3036
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see tea bodies i expected this and that

3037
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i don't know what's going on they're

3038
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lying to us and all that i get it i

3039
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:50,800
understand my job is to try to explain

3040
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it and clarify it a little bit so people

3041
02:00:56,470 --> 02:00:54,480
would not be too out of place

3042
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let's take our break right here this is

3043
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fade to black i'm heroes jimmy church

3044
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the one and only

3045
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stephen bassett what a great

3046
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conversation so far we'll pick up where

3047
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we're leaving off after this short break

3048
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this is fade to black on the game

3049
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3094
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3095
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3096
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3097
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3098
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when people aren't sure aren't sure

3117
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about the government the stock market

3118
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their jobs or their retirement savings

3119
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our national debt is skyrocketing gold

3120
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3121
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3122
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3137
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3138
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brush

3139
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why fade to black

3140
02:05:39,910 --> 02:05:36,310
this is faded black with jimmy church on

3141
02:05:43,370 --> 02:05:39,920
the game changer radio network and kgra

3142
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the global radio alliance

3143
02:05:58,629 --> 02:05:56,400
[Music]

3144
02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:58,639
all right welcome back fade to black i

3145
02:06:02,470 --> 02:05:59,840
am your host jimmy church i guess

3146
02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:02,480
tonight stephen bassett paradigm

3147
02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:04,480
research group

3148
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:05,679
now

3149
02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:07,119
stephen

3150
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:09,760
you know based out of washington dc he

3151
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:11,520
has been a part of this community and

3152
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:13,360
pushing for disclosure for a very long

3153
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:14,239
time

3154
02:06:18,790 --> 02:06:17,199
coined the phrase the truth embargo

3155
02:06:19,990 --> 02:06:18,800
and now

3156
02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:20,000
this is where i'm going to go straight

3157
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:23,040
at you stephen all right

3158
02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:24,560
disclosure

3159
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:27,840
the truth embargo

3160
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:29,760
what is it

3161
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:33,840
you

3162
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:39,679
to step up to the podium and say what is

3163
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,550
very simple

3164
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:46,550
my fellow americans i can confirm to you

3165
02:06:49,350 --> 02:06:47,679
tonight

3166
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:49,360
based upon

3167
02:06:52,629 --> 02:06:50,960
my viewing of the evidence it's been

3168
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:52,639
presented to the congress over the last

3169
02:06:56,310 --> 02:06:54,400
week or two weeks

3170
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:56,320
and after discussion with

3171
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:58,239
my people at the department of defense

3172
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:00,480
as well as congressional leaders

3173
02:07:04,310 --> 02:07:02,800
but this testimony confirms what many of

3174
02:07:06,470 --> 02:07:04,320
you suspect that there is an

3175
02:07:08,229 --> 02:07:06,480
extraterrestrial presence engaging us

3176
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:08,239
now that's it

3177
02:07:11,669 --> 02:07:10,079
that's what we want that's all

3178
02:07:13,189 --> 02:07:11,679
we want more but i mean in terms of

3179
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:13,199
disclosure

3180
02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:15,119
that's it that's the moment that those

3181
02:07:20,470 --> 02:07:17,360
words come out of his mouth or the mouth

3182
02:07:22,629 --> 02:07:20,480
of another head of state

3183
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:22,639
and backed up by whatever evidence they

3184
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:24,320
wish to produce and i assure you that's

3185
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:25,599
not a problem

3186
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:27,520
we have had disclosure

3187
02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:29,440
that's it that's it after that we're in

3188
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:30,880
the post-disclosure world and all

3189
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:31,920
questions will be about the

3190
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:33,440
post-disclosure world what do you want

3191
02:07:36,149 --> 02:07:34,800
in the post to study your world well

3192
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:36,159
hell we could spend days talking about

3193
02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:38,639
that but that's it the announcement the

3194
02:07:43,030 --> 02:07:41,040
confirmation that is what that ends the

3195
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:43,040
truth embargo with that moment

3196
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:45,360
it doesn't end all secrecy

3197
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:48,000
but it ends the truth embargo which is

3198
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:50,000
fundamentally about

3199
02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:51,280
confirming

3200
02:07:54,709 --> 02:07:52,960
and acknowledging the extraterrestrial

3201
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:54,719
presence which has been around

3202
02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:56,960
since 47 if not since

3203
02:08:02,069 --> 02:08:00,320
4000 bc right whatever

3204
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:02,079
it's that simple

3205
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:04,639
now no more complicated than that

3206
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:07,920
let's uh let's examine that for a second

3207
02:08:15,830 --> 02:08:12,000
and and i appreciate that and i know

3208
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:15,840
that you know that i know that is what

3209
02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:17,199
so many

3210
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,880
need to hear

3211
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:20,719
anything else oh there's already been

3212
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,480
disclosure i don't need it well you know

3213
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:24,480
what that's not good enough for

3214
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:26,880
for the vast majority of not only

3215
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:28,800
members of this community but the rest

3216
02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:30,079
of the planet

3217
02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:32,639
so let's suppose that those words are

3218
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:38,310
be careful of what you wish for

3219
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:39,119
right

3220
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:40,000
what

3221
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:43,920
handle that and i know that's the

3222
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:45,760
million-dollar question

3223
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:48,480
but can the world handle it

3224
02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:50,400
i certainly i'm certain the world can

3225
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:51,440
handle it

3226
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:53,360
the human race has handled a lot of

3227
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:55,280
stuff in its existence

3228
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:57,119
uh we've been through

3229
02:09:02,830 --> 02:09:00,320
uh wars global wars

3230
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:02,840
we've been through uh

3231
02:09:07,830 --> 02:09:04,639
pandemics uh

3232
02:09:08,629 --> 02:09:07,840
and uh upheavals

3233
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,639
hey

3234
02:09:11,350 --> 02:09:10,159
we've been through change upon change

3235
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:11,360
upon change

3236
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:13,520
and and and now

3237
02:09:16,830 --> 02:09:14,880
we're gonna have another significant

3238
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:16,840
change paradigm

3239
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:18,480
shift

3240
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:20,320
and if you ask me could the world have

3241
02:09:26,069 --> 02:09:23,280
dealt with it uh 70 years ago

3242
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:26,079
in 1947 there'd never been a film about

3243
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:30,000
et's the first one was 1951.

3244
02:09:34,229 --> 02:09:32,239
or 51 is when they came out i the one of

3245
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:34,239
the most well remembered is the day the

3246
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:35,440
earth should still it may not have been

3247
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:36,960
the first but i think 51 is when the

3248
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:38,960
first film

3249
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:41,440
this issue came out so in 47 there ever

3250
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:42,960
been a film

3251
02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:44,159
but

3252
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:46,480
americans in 1947 had just gone through

3253
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:47,920
world war ii

3254
02:09:52,870 --> 02:09:50,719
defeated the axis powers

3255
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:52,880
they did all kinds of sacrifice in order

3256
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:54,960
to serve the war

3257
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,040
they did a fantastic job came together

3258
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:59,280
and this idea that if they'd learned wow

3259
02:10:01,750 --> 02:10:00,719
these craft that have been flying around

3260
02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:01,760
we've been hearing about turns out

3261
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:03,280
they're not from here and there's

3262
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:04,960
there's et's in them that they would

3263
02:10:10,390 --> 02:10:07,679
have simply collapsed into a puddle

3264
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:10,400
is absurd they wouldn't have that was 70

3265
02:10:12,830 --> 02:10:11,920
years ago

3266
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:12,840
so

3267
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:16,079
after see 51 to now is uh

3268
02:10:21,510 --> 02:10:17,840
70 years

3269
02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:21,520
of et movies and television shows so

3270
02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:23,840
many you can can't count i actually

3271
02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:25,360
researched it once and the total

3272
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:27,360
revenues from these things is way up

3273
02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:30,239
there 50 60 70 billion dollars has been

3274
02:10:35,830 --> 02:10:33,599
made from television and series and and

3275
02:10:38,870 --> 02:10:35,840
films with et's in them of one kind or

3276
02:10:40,709 --> 02:10:38,880
another 70. so

3277
02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:40,719
i can't hardly find somebody in the

3278
02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:42,800
entire planet

3279
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:45,679
that hasn't seen something about et's in

3280
02:10:50,069 --> 02:10:48,560
a fictional state now after 70 years of

3281
02:10:53,189 --> 02:10:50,079
that and we find out there's actually

3282
02:10:55,350 --> 02:10:53,199
real ets we're going to what fall apart

3283
02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:55,360
no but that meme is out there all the

3284
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:58,079
time because it serves the truth embarco

3285
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:00,480
it's constantly put out there as another

3286
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:02,800
little thing to keep the truth embargo

3287
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:06,480
going you can and and by the way

3288
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:08,400
when you hear that particularly from

3289
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:10,400
somebody connected to government anyway

3290
02:11:13,910 --> 02:11:12,400
it's not for you

3291
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:13,920
they're not really putting that out

3292
02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:16,320
there so that they can keep you

3293
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:18,320
from giving them a hard time that

3294
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:20,079
particular message

3295
02:11:23,510 --> 02:11:22,320
that the public can't handle the truth

3296
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:23,520
is for

3297
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:26,079
them it's for the government people it's

3298
02:11:30,950 --> 02:11:29,040
for the military it's for the scientists

3299
02:11:32,709 --> 02:11:30,960
meaning look you guys know about this

3300
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:32,719
you got your hands on some files you

3301
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:34,000
could cruise on down to the new york

3302
02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:35,520
times tomorrow

3303
02:11:40,790 --> 02:11:38,560
but don't do that because if you do all

3304
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:40,800
of society will fall apart religion will

3305
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:42,639
collapse the economy will blow up you

3306
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:44,639
don't want to destroy the world do you

3307
02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:47,679
it's basically propaganda directed

3308
02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:51,280
toward themselves not for us

3309
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:52,639
and you'll find that when you talk to

3310
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:54,480
people in general about this thing i'm

3311
02:11:58,470 --> 02:11:56,320
not going to fall apart i'm fine it's

3312
02:11:59,589 --> 02:11:58,480
going to be okay but it's out there and

3313
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,599
others have picked it up and they're

3314
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:01,760
going well maybe the world will collapse

3315
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:04,159
well i'm here to tell you it won't if

3316
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,960
anything everybody will throw a party

3317
02:12:10,709 --> 02:12:09,040
uh most people throw a party and sit sit

3318
02:12:12,149 --> 02:12:10,719
down in front of their televisions and

3319
02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:12,159
and enjoy the hell out of the

3320
02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:13,599
post-disclosure world for as long as

3321
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:14,639
they can

3322
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:17,920
i i i've enjoyed of

3323
02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:21,360
more than a few emails that have come in

3324
02:12:30,550 --> 02:12:22,560
uh

3325
02:12:33,109 --> 02:12:30,560
report date of june 25th

3326
02:12:35,830 --> 02:12:33,119
from a variety of people but everybody

3327
02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:35,840
was going back to kind of the same

3328
02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:37,440
thought process

3329
02:12:41,189 --> 02:12:38,639
which is

3330
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:41,199
church what are you going to do

3331
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:43,520
if uh disclosure is here you're going to

3332
02:12:46,709 --> 02:12:45,199
be out of a job

3333
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:46,719
ancient

3334
02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:51,520
going to care and this whole question

3335
02:12:54,229 --> 02:12:53,119
being answered

3336
02:12:55,669 --> 02:12:54,239
uh

3337
02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:55,679
everybody's going to be out of work

3338
02:12:58,629 --> 02:12:57,360
there's going to be no more ufo

3339
02:13:01,109 --> 02:12:58,639
conferences

3340
02:13:03,430 --> 02:13:01,119
and i and i got this type of email over

3341
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:03,440
and over again now what that suggests to

3342
02:13:08,229 --> 02:13:04,560
me

3343
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:08,239
is that people are very aware of the

3344
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:10,560
hard work that we put into this

3345
02:13:14,069 --> 02:13:13,360
and and and pushing all of this forward

3346
02:13:18,069 --> 02:13:14,079
but

3347
02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:18,079
what do we do there's there's no more

3348
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:19,040
goal

3349
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:21,280
right there there isn't a reason to push

3350
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:23,280
the football down the field

3351
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:24,960
how do you respond to that kind of

3352
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:26,159
criticism

3353
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:29,280
oh that's easy that's easy jimmy uh

3354
02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:31,760
trying to think of a really good analogy

3355
02:13:36,629 --> 02:13:32,960
uh

3356
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:36,639
you know

3357
02:13:40,390 --> 02:13:38,560
once we put a man on the moon that's

3358
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:40,400
pretty much it that was the goal and

3359
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:41,599
we're pretty much going to give up on

3360
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:43,199
the space thing it's not much to do

3361
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:44,560
there anymore

3362
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,079
uh well of course

3363
02:13:49,589 --> 02:13:48,000
putting a man on the moon guaranteed

3364
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:49,599
that the human race was going to be

3365
02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:53,119
engaging space forever

3366
02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:54,400
disclosure is nothing more than a

3367
02:13:58,069 --> 02:13:56,159
confirmation

3368
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,079
now once we enter the post-disclosure

3369
02:14:01,430 --> 02:14:00,079
world

3370
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:01,440
the

3371
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:03,599
demand for information

3372
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:05,360
what we may learn in the post-disclosure

3373
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:07,520
world all of this has huge implications

3374
02:14:11,830 --> 02:14:09,199
for everybody

3375
02:14:13,310 --> 02:14:11,840
and i assure you the interest in this

3376
02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:13,320
subject will

3377
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,199
explode

3378
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:17,119
and so those that are worried about you

3379
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:19,040
i i want to tell them right now jimmy's

3380
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:20,960
going to be just fine

3381
02:14:25,910 --> 02:14:23,599
jimmy's audience will double maybe

3382
02:14:28,229 --> 02:14:25,920
triple and the number of subjects that

3383
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:28,239
he can cover when you talk about okay

3384
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:30,079
what's who do we bring on to talk about

3385
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:32,719
the relationship between this topic and

3386
02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:34,239
the et's

3387
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:35,920
or what we may get from the government

3388
02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:39,199
or technology uh and and what the ats

3389
02:14:42,229 --> 02:14:40,800
are about right and and and by the way i

3390
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:42,239
know a bunch of contactees let's get

3391
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:43,840
them on they've actually met the damn

3392
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,679
people we didn't think so before but

3393
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:47,599
apparently yeah it's true they did meet

3394
02:14:51,910 --> 02:14:50,159
them uh let me tell you jimmy

3395
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:51,920
people that are worried about you

3396
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:54,960
no no so uh

3397
02:15:00,069 --> 02:14:58,790
i

3398
02:15:02,709 --> 02:15:00,079
look

3399
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:02,719
i'm alright let me give you an example

3400
02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:04,480
uh people thought well when the civil

3401
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:05,840
rights acts were passed that would be

3402
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,360
the end of the drive for justice and

3403
02:15:13,430 --> 02:15:11,520
fairness for people of color pretty much

3404
02:15:15,430 --> 02:15:13,440
got the law don't need to do anything

3405
02:15:17,430 --> 02:15:15,440
are you kidding me once those laws were

3406
02:15:18,550 --> 02:15:17,440
passed the civil rights movement went to

3407
02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:18,560
high gear

3408
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,719
it had much more work to do

3409
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:22,960
disclosure is a simple statement from

3410
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,280
the president the post-disclosure world

3411
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:27,119
will last for the next hundred years and

3412
02:15:31,189 --> 02:15:29,119
maybe the next well the post-disclosure

3413
02:15:33,109 --> 02:15:31,199
world will last forever but the work

3414
02:15:34,709 --> 02:15:33,119
that's needed with respect to it will be

3415
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:34,719
incredibly intense for the rest of the

3416
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,800
century uh it will

3417
02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:38,639
right now there's not a single college

3418
02:15:44,709 --> 02:15:40,960
university that has a formal program on

3419
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:44,719
this in its curriculum not a single one

3420
02:15:49,910 --> 02:15:47,280
within 10 years after disclosure there

3421
02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:49,920
will be exo political apartments and

3422
02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:51,520
departments dealing with et phenomena or

3423
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:54,000
whatever e.t issue in purchasing every

3424
02:15:58,470 --> 02:15:55,760
major university country that's within

3425
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,480
10 years that's a given right um and and

3426
02:16:02,069 --> 02:16:00,639
so forth i can go on and on and on

3427
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:02,079
but i assure you

3428
02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:04,800
uh disclosure is the door to another

3429
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:05,760
world

3430
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:11,119
rather the door to another one even

3431
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:13,920
bigger even more and you bring up it's a

3432
02:16:20,950 --> 02:16:16,480
very interesting point because at the

3433
02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:20,960
university level um we have avi loeb he

3434
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,560
brought up uh uri milner earlier who

3435
02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:26,960
partnered up uh with avi

3436
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:30,800
and one of the things that yuri

3437
02:16:33,509 --> 02:16:32,800
uh there's a few points i want to make

3438
02:16:35,270 --> 02:16:33,519
here

3439
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:35,280
that yuri

3440
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:37,599
said to avi

3441
02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:39,280
he said look

3442
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:41,359
i want to

3443
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:43,040
i will fund this

3444
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:45,200
if you can

3445
02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:46,559
show me

3446
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:48,960
that we can get to

3447
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:50,880
another star

3448
02:16:55,589 --> 02:16:53,200
in my lifetime

3449
02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:55,599
now that's that's the rules i am of this

3450
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:59,120
age so you've got right you've got x

3451
02:17:01,509 --> 02:17:00,639
amount of time

3452
02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:01,519
to

3453
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:06,399
and i'll fund it

3454
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:07,519
so

3455
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:08,960
that that

3456
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:12,080
well okay so yuri put the pro

3457
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:14,160
project together and it took him about

3458
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:15,519
six months

3459
02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:17,519
um he knew that he couldn't take five

3460
02:17:21,589 --> 02:17:19,359
years to do this because that takes away

3461
02:17:23,429 --> 02:17:21,599
five years from yuri's life right so you

3462
02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:23,439
can't do that you've got to fast track

3463
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:25,760
this and he put that project together

3464
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:30,559
but the reason why uh yuri selected avi

3465
02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:33,040
was you know drove up you know to

3466
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,559
harvard goes to avi's office and

3467
02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:38,719
and and goes in and lays this out and

3468
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:40,960
also stephen hawking was involved too as

3469
02:17:44,549 --> 02:17:42,880
well well anyway

3470
02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:44,559
avi

3471
02:17:50,709 --> 02:17:47,840
knows that there has to be it's it's a

3472
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:50,719
numbers issue there has to be an a huge

3473
02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:51,599
amount

3474
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:54,399
of intelligent life out there and then

3475
02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:56,639
omua happens

3476
02:18:01,750 --> 02:17:59,280
and avi decided to

3477
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:01,760
uh take it upon himself

3478
02:18:06,389 --> 02:18:05,359
to make sure that he would compile a

3479
02:18:08,830 --> 02:18:06,399
group

3480
02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:08,840
of physicists astrophysicists

3481
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:11,760
astronomers uh scientists together

3482
02:18:19,589 --> 02:18:15,120
to absolutely definitively

3483
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:19,599
find planets that have life on them

3484
02:18:24,309 --> 02:18:22,719
and he announced the galileo project uh

3485
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:24,319
two weeks ago he's going to be on this

3486
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:26,319
program next week to talk about this

3487
02:18:31,429 --> 02:18:29,760
further but this is in addition to

3488
02:18:34,150 --> 02:18:31,439
everything else that is going on out

3489
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:34,160
there right now in the media and

3490
02:18:38,389 --> 02:18:36,000
in the senate intelligence committee in

3491
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:38,399
the uaptf the department of defense and

3492
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:40,880
lou elizondo and chris mellon all of

3493
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:43,280
that's going on meanwhile

3494
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:45,200
avi um

3495
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:48,080
is right now is the only guy

3496
02:18:54,709 --> 02:18:51,040
to step out and he's with harvard to

3497
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:54,719
absolutely prove that this is happening

3498
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,439
out there in our galaxy

3499
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:59,599
and and i recommend it

3500
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:00,960
yeah yeah

3501
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:04,639
and i think that that may he may he may

3502
02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:07,120
he may beat the prezzo dent

3503
02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:09,519
to the punch no he will not no he will

3504
02:19:14,389 --> 02:19:11,679
not you don't think so come close let me

3505
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,399
let me let me be strong here okay

3506
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,120
first of all yuri

3507
02:19:21,190 --> 02:19:19,120
bubola tavares

3508
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:21,200
call me for god's sake

3509
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:22,000
right

3510
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:24,319
you're for what some reason you're

3511
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:26,479
getting really bad advice and you're

3512
02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:28,880
behind the curve here all right

3513
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:29,679
uh

3514
02:19:33,110 --> 02:19:31,760
et's are here already the government

3515
02:19:36,629 --> 02:19:33,120
already knows it

3516
02:19:38,709 --> 02:19:36,639
right so so you keep throwing your money

3517
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:38,719
uh how's the word you're like the guy

3518
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:40,880
that buys the stock after it's already

3519
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:43,200
gone up 500 percent

3520
02:19:46,230 --> 02:19:44,960
right meaning right yeah it's gonna go

3521
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:46,240
and it comes down

3522
02:19:49,190 --> 02:19:47,359
uh

3523
02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:49,200
look

3524
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:51,439
i i i i'm trying to imagine what it'll

3525
02:19:54,870 --> 02:19:52,800
be like to be

3526
02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:54,880
yuri milner particularly

3527
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:57,520
but to some degree even i'll be low when

3528
02:20:01,670 --> 02:19:59,040
the government finally confirms the et

3529
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:01,680
presence not only that it's here but

3530
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:03,280
it's been here all along and ultimately

3531
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:05,200
confirms yeah we knew it all along that

3532
02:20:09,110 --> 02:20:06,640
will come out soon enough we've known it

3533
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:09,120
for 74 years i wonder what they're going

3534
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:10,560
to think

3535
02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:15,359
the money that was all spent on what

3536
02:20:19,349 --> 02:20:17,439
so that's awkward

3537
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:19,359
uh and but it gets worse than that and i

3538
02:20:26,389 --> 02:20:23,830
harvard

3539
02:20:27,990 --> 02:20:26,399
is just one of the 5 000 universities

3540
02:20:30,070 --> 02:20:28,000
and colleges that will not study this

3541
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:30,080
issue

3542
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:31,280
even though

3543
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,720
there's plenty of professors in those

3544
02:20:36,950 --> 02:20:34,720
schools that know the et presence is

3545
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:36,960
real and occasionally one will pop up

3546
02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:38,160
and say something get involved in

3547
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:41,040
outside project they will not provide

3548
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:43,359
the study of this issue why because it

3549
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:44,800
would upset the government

3550
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:47,439
and and what a lot of people don't know

3551
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:50,080
is that there's no more skittish group

3552
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:52,880
in this country than college professors

3553
02:20:57,110 --> 02:20:54,240
people are under the mistake that

3554
02:21:00,150 --> 02:20:57,120
because they have tenure they're bold

3555
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:00,160
and aggressive and they're safe

3556
02:21:04,790 --> 02:21:02,720
and no they're not in fact

3557
02:21:06,150 --> 02:21:04,800
getting tenure for a professor usually

3558
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:06,160
means

3559
02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:07,600
i don't have to worry about losing my

3560
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:08,560
job and since i don't have to worry

3561
02:21:11,670 --> 02:21:10,000
about losing my job i'm just going to

3562
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:11,680
teach and be comfortable and have a good

3563
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:13,520
time make a nice living i'm not going to

3564
02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:15,439
why do i want to rattle anybody's cage

3565
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:18,160
why do i want to cause a problem besides

3566
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:21,120
my university does get some funding from

3567
02:21:24,950 --> 02:21:22,560
government sources or government

3568
02:21:26,309 --> 02:21:24,960
indirectly or directly and why upset

3569
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:26,319
that right i don't want to hurt my

3570
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:28,080
university that's the only way to

3571
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:31,120
explain that in 74 years of this

3572
02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:34,720
phenomena being worldwide not a single

3573
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:37,280
university or college in this country

3574
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:41,200
has been a formal study of this it is

3575
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:44,560
the biggest intellectual failure

3576
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:46,240
of all time

3577
02:21:48,230 --> 02:21:47,200
maybe

3578
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,240
they all thought they were all going to

3579
02:21:52,389 --> 02:21:50,160
be put on a stake and and set on fire

3580
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:52,399
like giordano bruno i don't know but

3581
02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:54,160
it's an act of intellectual cowardice

3582
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:56,560
unprecedented certainly in the modern

3583
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:58,240
era now they're all going to have to

3584
02:22:00,870 --> 02:21:59,439
answer for that

3585
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:00,880
well i would say

3586
02:22:04,790 --> 02:22:03,120
i would say in a general sense stephen

3587
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:04,800
you're absolutely right

3588
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:09,280
but avi is not from that mindset and

3589
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:12,000
not exactly not exactly he have you ever

3590
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:14,160
spoken to him have you ever spoken to

3591
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:15,120
him

3592
02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:17,040
i haven't i've read enough

3593
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:19,040
i know look i understand look i'm not

3594
02:22:25,030 --> 02:22:21,040
gonna i don't knock the guy look let me

3595
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,040
it's 30 years ago 25 years ago i started

3596
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:27,600
my work by going to work for john mack's

3597
02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:30,160
organization as a volunteer also

3598
02:22:33,510 --> 02:22:31,920
also from harvard

3599
02:22:34,710 --> 02:22:33,520
uh also from

3600
02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:34,720
harvard train

3601
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:37,840
is that okay right pulitzer prize winner

3602
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:40,240
and he had he in the previous two years

3603
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:43,280
before i arrived there in january 1996

3604
02:22:47,750 --> 02:22:45,280
he was attacked by time magazine he was

3605
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:47,760
attacked by film class

3606
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:50,240
uh he had others efforts to undermine

3607
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,000
him and then harvard held a tribunal

3608
02:22:56,309 --> 02:22:54,080
essentially to have made him come in to

3609
02:22:57,990 --> 02:22:56,319
defend his work because there were some

3610
02:23:00,469 --> 02:22:58,000
concerns that he was not operating

3611
02:23:02,550 --> 02:23:00,479
within the pro protocol protocols

3612
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:02,560
it took him eight months and 250 000

3613
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,280
dollars to ultimately defend himself and

3614
02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:07,840
the tribunal finally said okay fine do

3615
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:09,359
what you do

3616
02:23:13,270 --> 02:23:11,280
meaning we didn't think you'd spend that

3617
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:13,280
much money we thought you'd just pack up

3618
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:15,920
right and shut down but my god and you

3619
02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:18,399
hired danny sheehan oh my god and you're

3620
02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:20,319
giving us a hard time so fine go that

3621
02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:22,720
was that was back in 94 95.

3622
02:23:28,870 --> 02:23:25,520
that's harvard the great beacon of

3623
02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:28,880
intellectual excellence

3624
02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:30,640
so

3625
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:36,000
and a whole lot of people that don't

3626
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:37,280
make the kind of salaries that

3627
02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:39,600
professors at harvard make

3628
02:23:41,910 --> 02:23:40,960
and and are working out of their back

3629
02:23:44,070 --> 02:23:41,920
pocket

3630
02:23:46,710 --> 02:23:44,080
taking a lot of grief

3631
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:46,720
working to try to end this truth embargo

3632
02:23:52,469 --> 02:23:50,160
24 years of that

3633
02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:52,479
and finally we get to a point where the

3634
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:54,800
chairman of the harvard astronomy

3635
02:23:59,429 --> 02:23:57,520
department longest serving chairman

3636
02:24:01,830 --> 02:23:59,439
feels comfortable enough to engage the

3637
02:24:03,990 --> 02:24:01,840
issue

3638
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:04,000
and he chooses

3639
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:05,760
well he doesn't do what bob bigelow

3640
02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:07,200
doesn't go in 60 minutes say there's

3641
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:08,479
et's here

3642
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,720
but he grabs a hold of this

3643
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:12,000
event and

3644
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:13,439
he looks at it and he says you know it's

3645
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,960
a little odd little some interesting

3646
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:17,040
things there it could be a probe

3647
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:18,720
and if it's a probe it confirms

3648
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,399
extraterrestrial intelligence outside

3649
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,240
the solar system and so he puts that

3650
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:24,560
theory out he talks about it

3651
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:26,479
and he gets picked up not just because

3652
02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:27,920
the theory is profound it's not that

3653
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:29,280
profound but because he's the head of

3654
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:30,479
the harvard astronomy department and

3655
02:24:36,710 --> 02:24:33,520
he's extraterrestrial he's using the

3656
02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:36,720
word extraterrestrial oh my god okay

3657
02:24:40,550 --> 02:24:38,319
and he gets tons of press

3658
02:24:42,870 --> 02:24:40,560
and it's pretty much positive and so

3659
02:24:44,710 --> 02:24:42,880
forth writes a book

3660
02:24:47,429 --> 02:24:44,720
and gets a big project going with a

3661
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:47,439
russian billionaire

3662
02:24:52,389 --> 02:24:49,840
but you know it's hard for me to get too

3663
02:24:53,830 --> 02:24:52,399
overworked about that

3664
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:53,840
because we know there's

3665
02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:56,479
extraterrestrials here already

3666
02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:58,399
what has he done to end the truth

3667
02:25:01,910 --> 02:24:59,680
embargo

3668
02:25:03,830 --> 02:25:01,920
he's basically saying that i can go this

3669
02:25:06,150 --> 02:25:03,840
far but no further and harvard hasn't

3670
02:25:08,070 --> 02:25:06,160
bothered him after 24 years harvard has

3671
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:08,080
got to the point where okay

3672
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:09,200
as long as you're not talking to

3673
02:25:12,950 --> 02:25:10,960
contactees or anything you can talk

3674
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:12,960
about the possibility of alien pro which

3675
02:25:17,230 --> 02:25:14,399
by the way already left the freaking

3676
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:17,240
solar system at 40 000 miles an hour

3677
02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:21,120
240 240 thousand miles right i'm

3678
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:22,000
thinking

3679
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:24,160
so so um it picked up speed when it went

3680
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:26,240
by the sun and so basically harvard is

3681
02:25:30,870 --> 02:25:29,760
saying okay after 24 years we can go

3682
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:30,880
with that

3683
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:36,960
well i'm sorry if that's not enough

3684
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,600
i'm sorry if the harvard university

3685
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:41,920
decided to be the catholic church of our

3686
02:25:44,630 --> 02:25:43,439
time

3687
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:44,640
right

3688
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:46,880
oh they didn't burn anybody to steak

3689
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:49,439
but i'll tell you if they could have put

3690
02:25:52,469 --> 02:25:50,960
john mack in house arrest they'd have

3691
02:25:54,389 --> 02:25:52,479
done it

3692
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:54,399
okay i'm not so forgiving about this

3693
02:25:58,150 --> 02:25:56,800
stuff i'm an activist a truth activist

3694
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:58,160
and when the entire collegiate

3695
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,800
collegiate world lies about this ignores

3696
02:26:04,230 --> 02:26:02,160
the truth does nothing to challenge the

3697
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:04,240
government i'm going to call him on it

3698
02:26:07,349 --> 02:26:05,120
and i'm going to call him in the

3699
02:26:08,950 --> 02:26:07,359
post-disclosure world not because i'm a

3700
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,960
vindictive guy but because if you don't

3701
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,640
call them on it what else are they going

3702
02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:12,479
to sit on their ass about that comes

3703
02:26:18,070 --> 02:26:15,280
along uh meaning oh we can't go there we

3704
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:18,080
might lose our funding i have tenure i

3705
02:26:22,150 --> 02:26:20,399
don't want to upset anybody oh man this

3706
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:22,160
irritates the hell out of me and so

3707
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:23,680
forgive me

3708
02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:25,680
if when yuri milner after giving a

3709
02:26:29,190 --> 02:26:27,120
million dollars to seti which is

3710
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,200
basically the biggest scientific fraud

3711
02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:31,439
in history now is going to give money to

3712
02:26:34,070 --> 02:26:32,960
avi because kind of a current thing and

3713
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:34,080
it's kind of cool he's a harvard

3714
02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:35,280
professor

3715
02:26:38,870 --> 02:26:36,800
yuri call me

3716
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:38,880
let me explain to you you don't have to

3717
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:40,800
go find intelligent life by some

3718
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:43,520
advanced program of deep space research

3719
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:46,319
here here right now and the truth

3720
02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:47,520
embargo when there's a good chance

3721
02:26:52,630 --> 02:26:50,399
you'll be able to ask them directly

3722
02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:52,640
what it's like on their planet

3723
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:55,359
right that would be even cooler and it

3724
02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:57,600
may not cost all this damn money and

3725
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:59,680
besides every time somebody likes that

3726
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:00,960
does this

3727
02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,040
he's telling a lot of people you know

3728
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:05,520
et's can't be here otherwise would i be

3729
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:07,680
so stupid to do this

3730
02:27:11,349 --> 02:27:09,760
and there he's reinforcing he's helping

3731
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:11,359
the truth embargo

3732
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:14,080
by being so obtuse

3733
02:27:19,190 --> 02:27:15,359
all right

3734
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:19,200
and and because he's and to some degree

3735
02:27:24,150 --> 02:27:20,880
though i love them all

3736
02:27:26,230 --> 02:27:24,160
richard and elon and and uh

3737
02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:26,240
and and jeff

3738
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:28,240
by not speaking to this issue even

3739
02:27:32,870 --> 02:27:31,120
though they're space nuts

3740
02:27:35,349 --> 02:27:32,880
it's making it a lot easier for people

3741
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:35,359
to go well you know i i can't imagine

3742
02:27:38,150 --> 02:27:36,800
there'd be et's here if there were et's

3743
02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:38,160
here these guys would be they were

3744
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:39,760
saying that wouldn't there they

3745
02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:41,439
if the government's been studying et

3746
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:43,120
technology for 70 years they wouldn't

3747
02:27:46,870 --> 02:27:46,160
invest money in chemical rockets

3748
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:46,880
so

3749
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:48,720
whether they intend to or not and i'm

3750
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:50,960
i'm not suggesting they intended

3751
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:52,640
they're helping the truth embargo big

3752
02:27:55,270 --> 02:27:53,680
time

3753
02:27:57,750 --> 02:27:55,280
the in other words there's a phrase i

3754
02:27:59,750 --> 02:27:57,760
use jimmy and i use it i use it often i

3755
02:28:03,110 --> 02:27:59,760
might use it again tonight

3756
02:28:06,469 --> 02:28:03,120
and i include myself you can be sure

3757
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:06,479
the truth embargo one way or another

3758
02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:10,160
will make fools of all of us

3759
02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:12,640
you me the air force the dod

3760
02:28:17,670 --> 02:28:14,560
billionaires media you name it and

3761
02:28:21,750 --> 02:28:17,680
college professors it will and has made

3762
02:28:23,110 --> 02:28:21,760
fools of all of us and i'm suggesting

3763
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:23,120
that

3764
02:28:30,469 --> 02:28:28,319
everybody probably should be addressed

3765
02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:30,479
in order to move past that

3766
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:32,800
so that we can all not be fools anymore

3767
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:35,600
i mean i i maybe i'm reaching too far

3768
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:37,600
but that's what's going on yuri is

3769
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:39,120
making a fool of himself harvard's

3770
02:28:42,950 --> 02:28:40,960
making a fool of himself the air force

3771
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:42,960
is making a fool of itself

3772
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:44,880
uh and on and on and on now there are

3773
02:28:47,830 --> 02:28:46,319
other things that people make fools of

3774
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:47,840
themselves about there's plenty about

3775
02:28:52,150 --> 02:28:49,760
going around right now and and so i'm

3776
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:52,160
not singling out this issue

3777
02:28:55,510 --> 02:28:54,160
but this issue unlike some of the other

3778
02:28:56,790 --> 02:28:55,520
things that people are making fools of

3779
02:28:59,030 --> 02:28:56,800
myself about

3780
02:29:02,070 --> 02:28:59,040
is more important more powerful more

3781
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:02,080
implicative than anything ever the human

3782
02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:03,520
race has

3783
02:29:09,190 --> 02:29:06,880
addressed or is is landed on their plate

3784
02:29:11,910 --> 02:29:09,200
nothing compares to this and so playing

3785
02:29:13,990 --> 02:29:11,920
around with this extending this

3786
02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:14,000
it's just

3787
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:18,399
just wrong well i i i look at it uh

3788
02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:19,359
maybe

3789
02:29:23,510 --> 02:29:20,240
uh

3790
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:23,520
a little bit differently but this is

3791
02:29:30,469 --> 02:29:26,960
this has always been my approach stephen

3792
02:29:33,910 --> 02:29:30,479
is that there are so many moving parts

3793
02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:33,920
from so many different areas here

3794
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:36,399
whether it's the military it's civilians

3795
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:38,160
it's abductions it's sightings it's

3796
02:29:46,230 --> 02:29:43,750
the other parts of this

3797
02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:46,240
that need to be in place besides the

3798
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:48,880
president stepping up to

3799
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:50,800
the microphone you know having somebody

3800
02:29:57,030 --> 02:29:54,080
like lou elizondo uh speaking out

3801
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:57,040
and and everything is the science side

3802
02:30:00,870 --> 02:29:58,080
of this

3803
02:30:02,790 --> 02:30:00,880
where the the james webb telescope that

3804
02:30:05,110 --> 02:30:02,800
is getting ready to launch

3805
02:30:06,950 --> 02:30:05,120
and the ability for the test system

3806
02:30:09,110 --> 02:30:06,960
that's t-e-s-s

3807
02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:09,120
uh to triangulate and look into the

3808
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:12,319
atmospheres of of different planets out

3809
02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:15,120
there and not only

3810
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:18,240
look for the atmospheric side of things

3811
02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:20,880
but the lights of cities

3812
02:30:25,190 --> 02:30:22,560
evidence of

3813
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:25,200
an advanced civilization that is another

3814
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,560
component that and seti too as well

3815
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:30,720
that's another component that supports

3816
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:34,319
all of this at the same time it can't

3817
02:30:39,429 --> 02:30:36,560
just come from the president at the

3818
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:39,439
podium it can't come from the ua ptf

3819
02:30:44,389 --> 02:30:42,160
report it can't come from lou elizondo

3820
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:44,399
and it can't come from abductees and it

3821
02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:46,160
can't come from the paradigm research

3822
02:30:50,950 --> 02:30:47,800
group it's

3823
02:30:51,910 --> 02:30:50,960
everything happening at the same time

3824
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:51,920
and

3825
02:30:57,830 --> 02:30:54,240
you can always go well yeah they said

3826
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:57,840
this but this also over here supports it

3827
02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:01,520
and omua was here and this and this

3828
02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:03,359
siding and this video

3829
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:05,359
it all comes together at the same time

3830
02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:07,760
and that's the way that i look at it i

3831
02:31:10,710 --> 02:31:09,840
don't think any of those components were

3832
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:10,720
moved

3833
02:31:13,990 --> 02:31:12,000
uh

3834
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:14,000
we'll get all of the answers that we

3835
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:17,600
need all of the cogs in the machine to

3836
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:20,800
be moving at the same time um boy

3837
02:31:25,190 --> 02:31:22,640
you're being generous

3838
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:25,200
there's clearly many many moving parts

3839
02:31:31,110 --> 02:31:25,840
and

3840
02:31:33,429 --> 02:31:31,120
this has been conducted is just

3841
02:31:36,710 --> 02:31:33,439
staggering do you think if we had gotten

3842
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:36,720
disclosure in 47 which we almost did

3843
02:31:39,990 --> 02:31:38,160
we would have already been to the stars

3844
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:40,000
by now um

3845
02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:43,120
probably and and uh

3846
02:31:47,990 --> 02:31:47,040
yeah right in hindsight is is always a

3847
02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:48,000
bane

3848
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:51,200
but but i look at for those that um have

3849
02:31:56,150 --> 02:31:53,120
criticized seti

3850
02:31:59,030 --> 02:31:56,160
um and i've been critical of seti too as

3851
02:32:00,790 --> 02:31:59,040
well but i always i always flip this

3852
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:00,800
over and go

3853
02:32:09,270 --> 02:32:07,190
when you throw money at a project that

3854
02:32:11,270 --> 02:32:09,280
is completely unnecessary

3855
02:32:13,429 --> 02:32:11,280
when that project is literally used by

3856
02:32:16,070 --> 02:32:13,439
the government as a deflection and a way

3857
02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:16,080
to manage the truth in barco meaning

3858
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:17,600
yeah of course we're interested in the

3859
02:32:20,710 --> 02:32:19,120
possibility of extraterrestrial life

3860
02:32:22,830 --> 02:32:20,720
that's why we have seti

3861
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:22,840
so thank you so much for coming by

3862
02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:24,880
sure you can always you can always look

3863
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:28,319
at it that way but yeah um the

3864
02:32:32,550 --> 02:32:30,160
and and and that

3865
02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:32,560
absolutely may be true

3866
02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:36,640
but looking for radio signals out there

3867
02:32:42,870 --> 02:32:39,600
that may or may not exist i think it's a

3868
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:42,880
good thing i i me personally i don't see

3869
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:44,800
anything wrong with it maybe i've

3870
02:32:50,870 --> 02:32:47,760
watched the movie contact too many times

3871
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:50,880
but it's just another piece of of the

3872
02:32:54,150 --> 02:32:52,640
also uh you know the search for

3873
02:32:57,429 --> 02:32:54,160
exoplanets

3874
02:33:01,830 --> 02:32:57,439
and if we if we actually look at this

3875
02:33:04,230 --> 02:33:01,840
stephen um and this addresses your point

3876
02:33:06,150 --> 02:33:04,240
um and i know i run around with flowers

3877
02:33:08,710 --> 02:33:06,160
hanging out of my pockets and i am being

3878
02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:08,720
generous there's no question about that

3879
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:10,240
but

3880
02:33:17,030 --> 02:33:14,640
in 1995 there were no exoplanets in 1995

3881
02:33:19,910 --> 02:33:17,040
we found our first exoplanet but before

3882
02:33:21,590 --> 02:33:19,920
1995 you walked out of your backyard and

3883
02:33:24,230 --> 02:33:21,600
looked up at the stars and wondered if

3884
02:33:26,950 --> 02:33:24,240
there were any planets out there we did

3885
02:33:29,190 --> 02:33:26,960
not know as a matter of fact the dog

3886
02:33:31,270 --> 02:33:29,200
misstated we were all that there is

3887
02:33:34,070 --> 02:33:31,280
there isn't any other planets

3888
02:33:37,429 --> 02:33:34,080
five years later we had five exoplanets

3889
02:33:38,710 --> 02:33:37,439
confirmed from 1995 to the year 2000

3890
02:33:40,309 --> 02:33:38,720
today

3891
02:33:43,429 --> 02:33:40,319
we now know

3892
02:33:47,429 --> 02:33:43,439
that every star in the sky that you can

3893
02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:47,439
see with your eyeballs has one two three

3894
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:49,840
or ten planets around it that is a

3895
02:33:56,710 --> 02:33:52,720
scientific fact we now know that there

3896
02:34:00,389 --> 02:33:56,720
are 80 billion earth-like planets in our

3897
02:34:01,910 --> 02:34:00,399
milky way in the goldilocks zone

3898
02:34:04,550 --> 02:34:01,920
all of that would not have been found

3899
02:34:07,429 --> 02:34:04,560
out without science and the search for

3900
02:34:10,309 --> 02:34:07,439
this and going to look for it that's a

3901
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:10,319
good thing that's not a bad thing

3902
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:12,319
i'm suggesting you look parse it a

3903
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:13,520
little bit more

3904
02:34:17,590 --> 02:34:14,800
first of all

3905
02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:17,600
yes the exoplanet research and and and

3906
02:34:22,710 --> 02:34:20,399
uh surveys very important absolutely had

3907
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,720
to do them and all of that knowledge

3908
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:24,000
helped to put pressure on the truth

3909
02:34:29,030 --> 02:34:26,720
embargo because it slowly destroyed that

3910
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:29,040
yes guess what though

3911
02:34:34,710 --> 02:34:31,520
we have we have been uh we have been

3912
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:34,720
aware of and and and watched a study

3913
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:37,920
increase in the survey of the galaxy to

3914
02:34:43,190 --> 02:34:40,240
the point where the number is staggering

3915
02:34:45,349 --> 02:34:43,200
and the truth embargo still

3916
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:45,359
stand well and that's that's how you

3917
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:47,920
keep the pressure on because yeah yeah

3918
02:34:52,630 --> 02:34:50,319
again we shouldn't have to do that and

3919
02:34:53,830 --> 02:34:52,640
don't we in other words we can't say oh

3920
02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:53,840
it's okay to do that

3921
02:34:58,550 --> 02:34:56,399
and it's all good when when in fact the

3922
02:35:01,190 --> 02:34:58,560
truth embargo still stands you end the

3923
02:35:03,670 --> 02:35:01,200
truth embargo my god the money that has

3924
02:35:06,469 --> 02:35:03,680
been thrown away not to mention the fact

3925
02:35:09,510 --> 02:35:06,479
that we have finite lifetimes

3926
02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:09,520
okay we don't live forever we live 75

3927
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:10,800
years

3928
02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:12,720
and so you've got people working and

3929
02:35:16,870 --> 02:35:14,399
working on this stuff and the

3930
02:35:18,469 --> 02:35:16,880
government's known it all along

3931
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:18,479
that no here's the best here's the best

3932
02:35:24,070 --> 02:35:22,240
example that i here's the best analogy

3933
02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:24,080
correct stephen

3934
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:25,680
all right but i need to drive this home

3935
02:35:29,190 --> 02:35:27,359
yeah drive it home let me get let me

3936
02:35:30,389 --> 02:35:29,200
give you an analogy i'm not saying this

3937
02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:30,399
has happened

3938
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:32,080
because i don't say that it'll end up in

3939
02:35:35,270 --> 02:35:33,280
the internet people say i'm actually

3940
02:35:38,790 --> 02:35:35,280
putting this out there

3941
02:35:41,910 --> 02:35:38,800
it's let's say that 40 50 years ago

3942
02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:41,920
are our deep classified

3943
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:44,800
search bio weapons laboratories which we

3944
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:46,479
have still

3945
02:35:50,870 --> 02:35:49,120
top people unbelievable funding they're

3946
02:35:52,630 --> 02:35:50,880
studying all this stuff to make a weapon

3947
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:52,640
and they stumble across a cure for

3948
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:54,319
cancer

3949
02:36:01,110 --> 02:35:58,080
imagine because they stumble across the

3950
02:36:03,590 --> 02:36:01,120
fundamental essence in origin

3951
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:03,600
and so they enact they they tell this to

3952
02:36:06,630 --> 02:36:05,280
to the top people

3953
02:36:07,830 --> 02:36:06,640
and by the way this declassified

3954
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:07,840
research because it's bioweapons

3955
02:36:10,550 --> 02:36:08,960
research okay so it's very classified

3956
02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:10,560
they tell the topic

3957
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:12,240
and certain groups within the united

3958
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:14,080
states government uh come together to

3959
02:36:20,150 --> 02:36:15,680
discuss it

3960
02:36:22,550 --> 02:36:20,160
uh secretly of course in a skit

3961
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:22,560
and someone raises their hand and says

3962
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:24,720
you know

3963
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:27,840
if we announce and put out this cure

3964
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:29,920
this extraordinary paradigm shift in

3965
02:36:32,389 --> 02:36:31,120
medical

3966
02:36:34,790 --> 02:36:32,399
treatment

3967
02:36:36,550 --> 02:36:34,800
it's going to extend the lifetime of

3968
02:36:38,070 --> 02:36:36,560
hundreds of millions and billions of

3969
02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:38,080
people they're going to live a lot

3970
02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:39,680
longer

3971
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:42,160
first of all that's going to completely

3972
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:45,280
wipe out the social security system

3973
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:47,040
more importantly it's going to increase

3974
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,040
the population density it's going to

3975
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,680
grow even faster the demand on resources

3976
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:53,200
there's going to be civil unrest and

3977
02:36:57,349 --> 02:36:54,880
everything else and so

3978
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:57,359
for a national security reason

3979
02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,240
it would be better if we did not release

3980
02:37:02,830 --> 02:37:02,000
this information and allow this cure to

3981
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:02,840
become

3982
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:05,200
ubiquitous for national security reasons

3983
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:06,240
i mean literally there would be

3984
02:37:09,030 --> 02:37:07,520
suffering there would be discord there

3985
02:37:10,230 --> 02:37:09,040
would be a lot of this and so they

3986
02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:10,240
didn't do it

3987
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:12,319
and the years went by and people started

3988
02:37:15,990 --> 02:37:13,760
hearing that maybe they had something

3989
02:37:17,750 --> 02:37:16,000
but they denied it witnesses many come

3990
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,760
forward they undermine them and whatever

3991
02:37:23,270 --> 02:37:19,600
and that and it went on decade after

3992
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:23,280
decade and after about 60 years

3993
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:25,040
we learned

3994
02:37:28,469 --> 02:37:26,160
finally

3995
02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:28,479
that they had a cure for cancer 60 years

3996
02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:32,000
ago and they kept it to themselves

3997
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:34,560
how generous do you think we should be

3998
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:36,160
not very we could say well look there

3999
02:37:39,830 --> 02:37:38,080
was a whole bunch of research in the

4000
02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:39,840
public sector trying to find a cure and

4001
02:37:42,950 --> 02:37:41,520
that led to this and that and everything

4002
02:37:45,910 --> 02:37:42,960
else and scientists had a job and made

4003
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:45,920
money and so forth so let's be forgiving

4004
02:37:49,030 --> 02:37:47,120
you know they didn't tell us we could

4005
02:37:51,590 --> 02:37:49,040
have known but hey you know we there was

4006
02:37:53,190 --> 02:37:51,600
some science it's like that jimmy

4007
02:37:55,190 --> 02:37:53,200
it is like that and that's a good

4008
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:55,200
announcement exactly like that sure it

4009
02:37:57,830 --> 02:37:56,160
is

4010
02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:57,840
sure and that's not acceptable that's

4011
02:38:01,910 --> 02:37:59,520
not acceptable and that and so when you

4012
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:01,920
have that still going on

4013
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:03,760
after the last four years that we've

4014
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:05,520
gone through with the witnesses coming

4015
02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:06,880
forward

4016
02:38:10,550 --> 02:38:08,640
not and that some of the most important

4017
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:10,560
the nuclear weapons tampering which the

4018
02:38:14,550 --> 02:38:12,800
government still won't acknowledge or

4019
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:14,560
have hearings for

4020
02:38:17,270 --> 02:38:15,760
people say well look here's a bunch of

4021
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:17,280
money let's

4022
02:38:22,389 --> 02:38:20,000
let's let's start a program to to see if

4023
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:22,399
we can find real evidence on out there

4024
02:38:25,349 --> 02:38:23,680
through the you know obviously

4025
02:38:26,710 --> 02:38:25,359
complicated because it's light years

4026
02:38:28,630 --> 02:38:26,720
away

4027
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,640
but let's don't let's don't talk about

4028
02:38:32,309 --> 02:38:30,240
the e.t presence let's don't go bob

4029
02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:32,319
bigelow here let's don't put any money

4030
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:34,319
in the activism let's let the government

4031
02:38:39,190 --> 02:38:37,040
continue this policy we're well fed

4032
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:39,200
we've got plenty of money we're happy

4033
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,880
we're getting press

4034
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:42,479
[\h__\h]

4035
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:46,000
what oh yeah okay so

4036
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:48,640
check this out

4037
02:38:55,030 --> 02:38:51,280
you just brought up showtime's

4038
02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:55,040
documentary series ufo by jj abrams have

4039
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:56,640
you seen it

4040
02:39:00,630 --> 02:38:58,560
i have seen the first episode okay and i

4041
02:39:03,670 --> 02:39:00,640
will obviously see the rest okay

4042
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,680
first episode it's pretty cool

4043
02:39:07,349 --> 02:39:05,760
et's disgust

4044
02:39:08,309 --> 02:39:07,359
phoenix lights

4045
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:08,319
uh

4046
02:39:11,910 --> 02:39:09,520
you know the

4047
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:11,920
chicago o'hare bring up a couple of

4048
02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:15,760
other cases and jj abrams is presenting

4049
02:39:19,750 --> 02:39:17,520
something pretty compelling it's high

4050
02:39:23,349 --> 02:39:19,760
value production it's great

4051
02:39:26,389 --> 02:39:23,359
i post it out on on social media

4052
02:39:29,670 --> 02:39:26,399
everybody go and check this out but then

4053
02:39:30,870 --> 02:39:29,680
i watched the other three episodes

4054
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:30,880
and

4055
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:33,920
episode number three

4056
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:36,720
stephen is the opposite of episode

4057
02:39:41,349 --> 02:39:38,880
number one as a matter of fact

4058
02:39:43,510 --> 02:39:41,359
and you can see what i posted up here in

4059
02:39:45,590 --> 02:39:43,520
twitter as a matter of fact i'll read it

4060
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:45,600
to you right now

4061
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:48,960
this is what i posted today on twitter

4062
02:39:56,710 --> 02:39:54,240
um copying both showtime and jj abrams i

4063
02:40:00,309 --> 02:39:56,720
said this quote

4064
02:40:01,750 --> 02:40:00,319
did jj abrams use showtime to project

4065
02:40:05,429 --> 02:40:01,760
the idea

4066
02:40:06,469 --> 02:40:05,439
that ufos are just a cover for us

4067
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:06,479
military

4068
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:08,399
tech question

4069
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:10,800
i'm just asking the question after

4070
02:40:16,389 --> 02:40:14,000
watching all four episodes of ufo

4071
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:16,399
what is your opinion

4072
02:40:20,389 --> 02:40:18,720
now that is out on social media right

4073
02:40:23,670 --> 02:40:20,399
now because

4074
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:23,680
after the first episode jj abrams takes

4075
02:40:28,790 --> 02:40:27,200
a left-hand turn brings on witnesses

4076
02:40:30,790 --> 02:40:28,800
testimony

4077
02:40:35,110 --> 02:40:30,800
video evidence to

4078
02:40:36,630 --> 02:40:35,120
to clearly paint the picture that

4079
02:40:40,150 --> 02:40:36,640
ufos

4080
02:40:44,230 --> 02:40:40,160
are a deflection by our united states

4081
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:44,240
government to cover up

4082
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:46,720
united states military technology that

4083
02:40:51,269 --> 02:40:49,600
the ufo enigma

4084
02:40:53,429 --> 02:40:51,279
is fake

4085
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:53,439
there are no ufos

4086
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:55,520
then he goes to

4087
02:40:58,630 --> 02:40:57,279
episode four

4088
02:41:01,269 --> 02:40:58,640
where he then

4089
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:01,279
as a matter of fact stephen in episode

4090
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:05,200
three he goes to this uh uh

4091
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:08,160
avionics uh aeronautics corporation

4092
02:41:11,830 --> 02:41:10,319
where they have got a large

4093
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:11,840
v-shaped

4094
02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:13,520
blimp

4095
02:41:18,469 --> 02:41:16,880
to suggest that that is what was seen

4096
02:41:21,269 --> 02:41:18,479
over phoenix

4097
02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:21,279
after what he did in episode one about

4098
02:41:25,910 --> 02:41:23,600
the phoenix lights then

4099
02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:25,920
proceeds to show this in episode three

4100
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:27,520
now there's more to it than that i don't

4101
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:30,479
want to waste time episode four

4102
02:41:36,550 --> 02:41:32,560
he goes after the abduction phenomena

4103
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:36,560
brings on uh a historian from penn state

4104
02:41:43,030 --> 02:41:39,760
who suggests very strongly

4105
02:41:44,389 --> 02:41:43,040
that all of this is a social

4106
02:41:47,030 --> 02:41:44,399
enigma

4107
02:41:49,990 --> 02:41:47,040
that abductions are part of our mind and

4108
02:41:52,309 --> 02:41:50,000
that we have through decades

4109
02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,319
gone through different types of

4110
02:41:57,590 --> 02:41:54,800
abduction and the phenomena and it was

4111
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:57,600
socially influenced that the abduction

4112
02:42:02,950 --> 02:42:00,560
phenomenon is fake and the publicity of

4113
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:02,960
this is brought on by our united states

4114
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:05,920
government to have a ufo question laid

4115
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:08,640
out to the public to deflect everything

4116
02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:11,439
from united states military tech

4117
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:14,960
that is the documentary called ufo on

4118
02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:18,000
showtime and it's dramatic and i pose

4119
02:42:22,389 --> 02:42:19,840
the question right now

4120
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:22,399
did jj use showtime

4121
02:42:27,429 --> 02:42:25,120
to present this disinformation

4122
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:27,439
i don't know what's going on after you

4123
02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:29,680
watch this documentary

4124
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:31,760
and you get through the end of episode

4125
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,560
four you're gonna have a different tune

4126
02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:36,960
and actually uh i know

4127
02:42:40,950 --> 02:42:38,160
well i

4128
02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:40,960
i have actually seen parts i also know

4129
02:42:45,750 --> 02:42:42,479
people involved

4130
02:42:48,950 --> 02:42:45,760
uh so i know more about the doc than you

4131
02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:48,960
may have assumed i did watch the first

4132
02:42:52,710 --> 02:42:50,560
uh

4133
02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:52,720
i would recommend that those that watch

4134
02:42:55,590 --> 02:42:53,359
it

4135
02:42:57,590 --> 02:42:55,600
consider this

4136
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:57,600
what he did

4137
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:00,479
was bring out

4138
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:03,520
the some of these counter arguments

4139
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:05,040
put them up there

4140
02:43:08,950 --> 02:43:07,040
primarily to show how

4141
02:43:11,510 --> 02:43:08,960
ludicrous they were

4142
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:11,520
uh in other words not try to

4143
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:13,600
just get in in other words not not

4144
02:43:17,429 --> 02:43:15,279
ignore the fact that you have these

4145
02:43:18,950 --> 02:43:17,439
other arguments being put out there

4146
02:43:21,670 --> 02:43:18,960
probably one of the most telling things

4147
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:21,680
is richard dodie of course

4148
02:43:25,750 --> 02:43:23,520
the the gentleman who worked in

4149
02:43:27,269 --> 02:43:25,760
disinformation for a fosse and who's

4150
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:27,279
responsible

4151
02:43:29,990 --> 02:43:28,800
if not directly indirectly for the

4152
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:30,000
suicide of

4153
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:31,680
paul benowitz

4154
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:34,000
comes across awful

4155
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:36,479
so in other words jj didn't want to do

4156
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:38,880
just a cheerleading thing

4157
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:41,040
he wanted to get sophisticated so he

4158
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:42,640
brought and showed some of these other

4159
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:44,319
arguments he didn't make fun of them he

4160
02:43:47,269 --> 02:43:45,680
just put them out there and let them

4161
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:47,279
stand on their own and they don't stand

4162
02:43:50,950 --> 02:43:48,960
very well

4163
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:50,960
i know for a fact that i assure you that

4164
02:43:56,309 --> 02:43:53,600
this is not a misinformation project and

4165
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,319
that uh the convictions about the et

4166
02:44:01,990 --> 02:43:59,040
reality are very powerful behind this so

4167
02:44:05,269 --> 02:44:02,000
i wouldn't overreact to that um

4168
02:44:07,429 --> 02:44:05,279
typically uh the standard docs

4169
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:07,439
uh which are made with much less money

4170
02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:09,760
such as even the netflix style they're

4171
02:44:13,110 --> 02:44:11,359
kind of like cheer reading they just

4172
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:13,120
constantly tell you and try to show you

4173
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:14,640
it's real they're real their wheel and

4174
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:15,760
look at this and look at that in the

4175
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:17,520
real and the real and the real

4176
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,760
and they don't want to go in

4177
02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:21,279
anywhere else because you know there's

4178
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:23,040
been so much disinformation and so much

4179
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:24,319
effort in the truth embargo they don't

4180
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:26,160
want to add anything to it jj doesn't

4181
02:44:28,550 --> 02:44:27,600
have that problem

4182
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:28,560
and so

4183
02:44:31,349 --> 02:44:30,000
he essentially he's gone another level

4184
02:44:34,389 --> 02:44:31,359
sophistication

4185
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,399
so uh expect to hear more about this

4186
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:36,640
uh expect to see uh interviews and so

4187
02:44:40,150 --> 02:44:38,880
forth this is only the beginning

4188
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:40,160
but i don't think it's quite what you

4189
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:41,040
think

4190
02:44:44,630 --> 02:44:42,240
um

4191
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:44,640
well i i i haven't i've watched i've

4192
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:47,200
watched all four episodes twice

4193
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:49,359
i've watched episode uh

4194
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:52,479
uh episode three three times

4195
02:44:56,469 --> 02:44:54,080
um and

4196
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:56,479
and as i started to digest this that's

4197
02:45:01,590 --> 02:44:59,200
why i put this out into the public

4198
02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:01,600
what is it and i make it clear here i'm

4199
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:03,359
just asking the question

4200
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:06,800
after watching all four episodes of ufo

4201
02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:08,960
what is your opinion that's all i want

4202
02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,000
to know

4203
02:45:16,070 --> 02:45:12,479
and uh but

4204
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:16,080
the intention i had uh richard dolan on

4205
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:18,319
the show last night uh discussing all of

4206
02:45:26,469 --> 02:45:19,200
this

4207
02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:26,479
uh

4208
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:31,920
because he is using he's got george

4209
02:45:36,950 --> 02:45:33,600
knapp he's got leslie kane he's got

4210
02:45:41,030 --> 02:45:36,960
diana pasoka he's got james carry on

4211
02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:41,040
on this yes richard doty uh kevin day

4212
02:45:43,750 --> 02:45:42,399
but in the end

4213
02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:43,760
i i

4214
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:45,359
question

4215
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:46,319
uh

4216
02:45:53,510 --> 02:45:50,800
did did leslie did george did diana did

4217
02:45:56,230 --> 02:45:53,520
kevin day for instance who's questioning

4218
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:56,240
his sanity right now about what he saw

4219
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:58,399
and and what he witnessed

4220
02:46:02,309 --> 02:46:01,520
um uh all the way through

4221
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:02,319
that

4222
02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:05,359
this is actually about the ufo

4223
02:46:11,269 --> 02:46:06,800
phenomenon

4224
02:46:14,389 --> 02:46:11,279
is a a creation and an and allowed to

4225
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:14,399
perpetuate by the government to cover up

4226
02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:17,040
uh uh their military tech

4227
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:19,439
that is i'm at a disadvantage jimmy

4228
02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:21,520
because i haven't seen him at length but

4229
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:23,120
i have seen enough

4230
02:46:29,030 --> 02:46:26,160
i saw the day thing for sure

4231
02:46:30,469 --> 02:46:29,040
kevin day is not questioning his uh what

4232
02:46:33,190 --> 02:46:30,479
he saw

4233
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:33,200
uh his sanity he's he's he what he's

4234
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:36,080
saying is is that the ordeal that he has

4235
02:46:39,910 --> 02:46:37,359
gone through

4236
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:39,920
and and the stress that is put on him is

4237
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:41,760
having him question insanity he is not

4238
02:46:45,190 --> 02:46:43,760
questioning what he saw and what he

4239
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:45,200
knows not at all

4240
02:46:49,510 --> 02:46:48,560
and so i i will i will eventually watch

4241
02:46:53,030 --> 02:46:49,520
them

4242
02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:53,040
some more

4243
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:55,760
but i can and i and i i believe that any

4244
02:47:01,110 --> 02:46:57,840
of this stuff should be scrutinized very

4245
02:47:03,830 --> 02:47:01,120
intensely and the views should be shared

4246
02:47:06,309 --> 02:47:03,840
but um i have i know enough to know that

4247
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:06,319
this has been a very solid positive

4248
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,120
thing

4249
02:47:11,349 --> 02:47:09,600
that it it it gave a huge amount of air

4250
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:11,359
time in a high level production to some

4251
02:47:14,469 --> 02:47:12,640
key people here

4252
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:14,479
all right including kevin day

4253
02:47:18,389 --> 02:47:16,080
i mean kevin day is going to be seen by

4254
02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:18,399
god knows how many millions of people

4255
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:20,000
talking about his experience and talking

4256
02:47:23,990 --> 02:47:22,160
about how it's affected him uh he's not

4257
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:24,000
alone there and you can find other

4258
02:47:27,830 --> 02:47:25,920
instances of this but the fact that

4259
02:47:31,190 --> 02:47:27,840
there's some stuff in there that goes

4260
02:47:33,590 --> 02:47:31,200
against the standard modality which is

4261
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:33,600
make a doc and sell the truth of the e.t

4262
02:47:37,030 --> 02:47:35,920
presence sell it hard over and over and

4263
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,040
over again

4264
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:39,120
i get that and i understand it it's a

4265
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:41,520
natural reaction to the truth embargo

4266
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:43,920
but you see that's coming from us the

4267
02:47:48,309 --> 02:47:46,160
community the intellectual ghetto that

4268
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:48,319
is ufology and the frustration and the

4269
02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:50,399
anger and so we sell sell sell he

4270
02:47:54,309 --> 02:47:52,240
doesn't have that problem he doesn't

4271
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:54,319
have to sell it he can show what he

4272
02:47:57,670 --> 02:47:56,479
needs to show for the reasons that he

4273
02:48:02,790 --> 02:47:57,680
has

4274
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:02,800
extremely significant commitment to

4275
02:48:07,429 --> 02:48:05,680
engaging this issue at a high level

4276
02:48:09,190 --> 02:48:07,439
which means he's greenlighted a lot of

4277
02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:09,200
other people that may not have thought

4278
02:48:14,630 --> 02:48:11,359
to go there that are going to go there

4279
02:48:17,269 --> 02:48:14,640
and so overall i assure you the i the

4280
02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:17,279
meme that well it's all just a

4281
02:48:21,030 --> 02:48:18,960
distraction program designed for the

4282
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:21,040
government is not going to get traction

4283
02:48:24,389 --> 02:48:22,399
it's not going to go anywhere it's been

4284
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:24,399
debunked already a hundred thousand

4285
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:27,279
times it's just not there but

4286
02:48:31,750 --> 02:48:29,279
after 74 years of truth embargo i don't

4287
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:31,760
blame anybody for being paranoid and

4288
02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:34,080
suspicious about anything that turns up

4289
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:35,600
well because the time has been been

4290
02:48:39,110 --> 02:48:37,439
doing this for a long time and and maybe

4291
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:39,120
they'll continue to do it but i'm not

4292
02:48:42,469 --> 02:48:41,439
too concerned about this well i would be

4293
02:48:45,110 --> 02:48:42,479
uh

4294
02:48:48,309 --> 02:48:45,120
very interested in your opinion after

4295
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:48,319
you watch episodes three and four it it

4296
02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:51,520
i i'm telling you i when when episode

4297
02:48:57,190 --> 02:48:53,760
one aired i spoke to you i spoke to

4298
02:48:59,830 --> 02:48:57,200
everybody i called dolan posted it up i

4299
02:49:02,389 --> 02:48:59,840
i talked to everybody

4300
02:49:04,150 --> 02:49:02,399
and uh

4301
02:49:05,110 --> 02:49:04,160
and then i got to episode two which is

4302
02:49:07,429 --> 02:49:05,120
okay

4303
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:07,439
then i got to three and stephen i was

4304
02:49:11,510 --> 02:49:09,840
like what what what what what just

4305
02:49:14,950 --> 02:49:11,520
happened

4306
02:49:16,950 --> 02:49:14,960
this is an interesting now if you know

4307
02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:16,960
if i'm george knapp

4308
02:49:20,309 --> 02:49:19,520
or if i was in this documentary

4309
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:20,319
and

4310
02:49:31,590 --> 02:49:28,240
only what i thought it was going to be

4311
02:49:34,150 --> 02:49:31,600
but what i believe in it's the opposite

4312
02:49:35,349 --> 02:49:34,160
and i don't dig this message i would be

4313
02:49:38,630 --> 02:49:35,359
pissed

4314
02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:38,640
so i i don't i don't know i i i don't

4315
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:40,960
know you know it's still airing and

4316
02:49:45,910 --> 02:49:42,800
we're going to see how people react i'm

4317
02:49:48,070 --> 02:49:45,920
just telling you i was i was shocked i

4318
02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:48,080
was shocked i was honestly shocked and i

4319
02:49:53,269 --> 02:49:50,000
don't want to i didn't want to pollute

4320
02:49:54,790 --> 02:49:53,279
anything i'm kind of glad that uh steven

4321
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:54,800
i'm being serious i'm kind of glad that

4322
02:49:58,469 --> 02:49:57,120
i posted out everybody go check out

4323
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:58,479
episode one

4324
02:50:03,349 --> 02:50:01,520
because i want everybody to come back to

4325
02:50:04,870 --> 02:50:03,359
me go in church i watch all four

4326
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:04,880
episodes man and

4327
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:06,960
and you were wrong

4328
02:50:11,750 --> 02:50:09,520
episode one uh was one thing but this

4329
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,760
documentary was something else

4330
02:50:17,030 --> 02:50:14,080
and i watched it on your recommendation

4331
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:17,040
i want them to be pissed at me i want i

4332
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:18,720
want to

4333
02:50:23,830 --> 02:50:21,760
uh understand uh everybody else's

4334
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:23,840
opinions here and and what their

4335
02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:27,439
takeaway is on this um it's a big deal

4336
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:30,640
man this is show time this is j.j abrams

4337
02:50:35,349 --> 02:50:33,840
and this goes this right here represents

4338
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:35,359
in my opinion

4339
02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:37,920
what the truth embargo is all about

4340
02:50:42,790 --> 02:50:42,080
and and is this just some big message

4341
02:50:47,349 --> 02:50:42,800
and

4342
02:50:49,510 --> 02:50:47,359
what the ufo community is about what

4343
02:50:51,750 --> 02:50:49,520
disclosure is about what the truth

4344
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:51,760
embargo is about no he doesn't he

4345
02:50:56,309 --> 02:50:54,000
doesn't have a clue and he went into

4346
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:56,319
another direction um

4347
02:51:00,870 --> 02:50:59,520
uh presupposing some very significant

4348
02:51:03,910 --> 02:51:00,880
statements here

4349
02:51:06,870 --> 02:51:03,920
about uh the ufo phenomenon and what it

4350
02:51:10,230 --> 02:51:06,880
represents and i think he clearly missed

4351
02:51:12,630 --> 02:51:10,240
the target so we will see history's a

4352
02:51:14,230 --> 02:51:12,640
a heck of a judge

4353
02:51:15,750 --> 02:51:14,240
again um

4354
02:51:19,110 --> 02:51:15,760
let me watch him

4355
02:51:19,990 --> 02:51:19,120
um and see if what i my understandings

4356
02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:20,000
are

4357
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:21,920
somehow off base

4358
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:24,880
but uh it will you know i mean richard

4359
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:26,800
i'm sorry i didn't watch him i

4360
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:29,040
i did binge watch the netflix series

4361
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:31,680
right after five hours and so i didn't

4362
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:33,920
have a chance to binge watch this plus i

4363
02:51:37,910 --> 02:51:35,279
don't have showtime but

4364
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:37,920
i will watch them i think that well and

4365
02:51:41,670 --> 02:51:39,200
i'll tell you what let's revisit this

4366
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:41,680
again in the future jim oh but

4367
02:51:46,070 --> 02:51:43,439
i know enough to know that if you think

4368
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:46,080
jj is is signed on to the disinformation

4369
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:48,319
program no that's not what's happening

4370
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:51,439
here uh and there's this is not the end

4371
02:51:55,910 --> 02:51:53,120
of this there's more coming

4372
02:51:58,550 --> 02:51:55,920
uh so don't worry it's gonna be okay all

4373
02:52:00,950 --> 02:51:58,560
right all right okay you're steven

4374
02:52:03,030 --> 02:52:00,960
bassett man you're steven bassett and i

4375
02:52:06,469 --> 02:52:03,040
uh i will uh

4376
02:52:08,630 --> 02:52:06,479
uh privately i will uh i will send you

4377
02:52:10,230 --> 02:52:08,640
all the shows so you don't have to uh

4378
02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:10,240
worry about that you can just download

4379
02:52:13,910 --> 02:52:12,240
them and no no that's okay i am i am

4380
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:13,920
going to sign up for showtime i'm i just

4381
02:52:16,710 --> 02:52:15,439
haven't i can send you i'm going to sign

4382
02:52:18,309 --> 02:52:16,720
up for showtime and watch them all you

4383
02:52:20,389 --> 02:52:18,319
don't need to send them to okay well my

4384
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:20,399
files have watermarks on them so it's a

4385
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:21,840
little distracting

4386
02:52:26,790 --> 02:52:24,800
but yeah okay so uh

4387
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:26,800
let's let me get into something else

4388
02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:28,960
here that i kind of want to do i don't i

4389
02:52:34,870 --> 02:52:31,840
think we have time um maybe we don't 10

4390
02:52:35,990 --> 02:52:34,880
minutes right now yeah about seven

4391
02:52:39,910 --> 02:52:36,000
oh god

4392
02:52:42,150 --> 02:52:39,920
um okay go go go wind it up okay look

4393
02:52:44,790 --> 02:52:42,160
here's another analogy that i use to try

4394
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:44,800
to help just writer people get what the

4395
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:46,960
hell happened and what's going on

4396
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:48,640
and i use a fable one of the most famous

4397
02:52:51,910 --> 02:52:50,800
fables ever done uh it's known all

4398
02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:51,920
around the world

4399
02:52:55,349 --> 02:52:53,680
it's called it's it's the one about the

4400
02:52:57,830 --> 02:52:55,359
boy who cried wolf

4401
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:57,840
okay middle ages that's when it started

4402
02:53:00,710 --> 02:52:59,840
used in grimm's fairy tales everybody

4403
02:53:02,950 --> 02:53:00,720
knows it

4404
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:02,960
the the shepherd boy is tired of being

4405
02:53:06,309 --> 02:53:04,560
out there he's he wants some attention

4406
02:53:08,710 --> 02:53:06,319
so he yells that the wolf pack is coming

4407
02:53:10,150 --> 02:53:08,720
the the townspeople come out and there

4408
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:10,160
and they go where where where he says oh

4409
02:53:13,990 --> 02:53:12,479
no it's gone away okay so then a couple

4410
02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:14,000
of nights later he does it again because

4411
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:15,279
again he wants some people to pay

4412
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:16,800
attention to him and so he he says the

4413
02:53:19,750 --> 02:53:18,000
wolf pack's coming and they come out

4414
02:53:21,830 --> 02:53:19,760
he's not there he does it a third time

4415
02:53:23,670 --> 02:53:21,840
now they're really pissed

4416
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:23,680
then then one night the wolf pack shows

4417
02:53:27,830 --> 02:53:26,000
up and he is yelling for help from the

4418
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:27,840
villagers into town and they go screw

4419
02:53:30,230 --> 02:53:28,880
you

4420
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:30,240
uh we're tired of this and they don't

4421
02:53:33,349 --> 02:53:31,600
come out

4422
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:33,359
and the wolf pack comes in and eats all

4423
02:53:35,990 --> 02:53:34,720
the sheep

4424
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:36,000
okay

4425
02:53:40,389 --> 02:53:38,720
that telling changed a new version came

4426
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:40,399
out later in the middle ages a little

4427
02:53:44,389 --> 02:53:42,479
different same thing cries well three

4428
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:44,399
times fourth time they don't come and

4429
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:47,760
the wolf pack eats the sheep and the boy

4430
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:48,880
okay

4431
02:53:53,510 --> 02:53:52,399
well let me upgrade this this particular

4432
02:53:58,230 --> 02:53:53,520
uh

4433
02:54:02,070 --> 02:53:58,240
fable

4434
02:54:04,630 --> 02:54:02,080
era uh

4435
02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:04,640
appropriate to our times which are very

4436
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:06,880
intense and grandiose and so forth

4437
02:54:10,309 --> 02:54:08,880
here's how the modern version of this

4438
02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:10,319
goes

4439
02:54:15,269 --> 02:54:13,200
the shepherd boy cries with three times

4440
02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:15,279
in a row they come out the finally

4441
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:16,880
they're disgusted he cries with the

4442
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:18,000
fourth time

4443
02:54:24,950 --> 02:54:21,520
and nobody comes and the uh wolf pack

4444
02:54:26,389 --> 02:54:24,960
eats the sheep eats the boy and eats all

4445
02:54:29,590 --> 02:54:26,399
of the villagers

4446
02:54:32,309 --> 02:54:29,600
it eats everything all right

4447
02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:32,319
so where am i getting at

4448
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:35,600
19 early 1960s united states government

4449
02:54:39,750 --> 02:54:37,840
lies about the gulf of tonkin

4450
02:54:41,670 --> 02:54:39,760
oh we were attacked not good this is

4451
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:41,680
going to have to escalate the war

4452
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,680
start sending in the troops escalates

4453
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:45,600
the whole damn thing all right we learn

4454
02:54:51,030 --> 02:54:50,080
later wasn't true okay wow and then

4455
02:54:52,389 --> 02:54:51,040
iraq

4456
02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:52,399
lied about the weapons of mass

4457
02:54:55,670 --> 02:54:53,600
destruction

4458
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:55,680
you know got us in the war hyped it

4459
02:54:59,750 --> 02:54:57,840
really hard and then not long after they

4460
02:55:01,750 --> 02:54:59,760
said well no

4461
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:01,760
there weren't any okay

4462
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:03,760
that's twice

4463
02:55:07,429 --> 02:55:06,160
okay how about the third time the united

4464
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:07,439
states government been lying about the

4465
02:55:12,950 --> 02:55:11,040
e.t presence for 74 years every single

4466
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:12,960
day not just a single event like the

4467
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:14,319
gulf of tonkin they have to lie every

4468
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:17,200
single day for 74 years

4469
02:55:22,790 --> 02:55:19,920
that's crying wolf the third time all

4470
02:55:24,710 --> 02:55:22,800
right and so what happens

4471
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:24,720
when the governments have lied like that

4472
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:26,960
like that little shepherd boy over and

4473
02:55:31,830 --> 02:55:29,520
over again until people are saying screw

4474
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:31,840
you and then along comes something

4475
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:33,600
really big

4476
02:55:38,309 --> 02:55:36,160
the wolf pack has arrived

4477
02:55:39,910 --> 02:55:38,319
right it's going to eat the sheep it's

4478
02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:39,920
going to eat the boy and it's going to

4479
02:55:43,269 --> 02:55:41,600
eat the entire town and the government

4480
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,279
reaches out to people and says look you

4481
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:45,359
need to trust us you need to you need to

4482
02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:47,680
do this and you need to do that right if

4483
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:49,520
you don't

4484
02:55:53,990 --> 02:55:52,399
and basically the people say screw

4485
02:55:55,910 --> 02:55:54,000
you

4486
02:55:58,550 --> 02:55:55,920
that's exactly what's happening now

4487
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:58,560
global warming screw you

4488
02:56:02,469 --> 02:56:01,040
pandemic screw you don't believe a damn

4489
02:56:03,990 --> 02:56:02,479
thing you say

4490
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:04,000
all right and there's going to be other

4491
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:05,840
instances of this

4492
02:56:09,349 --> 02:56:06,640
so

4493
02:56:10,150 --> 02:56:09,359
this is an existential situation yeah it

4494
02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:10,160
is

4495
02:56:13,990 --> 02:56:12,560
let me be clear the thing that you need

4496
02:56:15,750 --> 02:56:14,000
to worry about the most the thing you

4497
02:56:17,670 --> 02:56:15,760
should fear the most in this world today

4498
02:56:19,190 --> 02:56:17,680
for your kids and grandkids whether you

4499
02:56:20,710 --> 02:56:19,200
care about yourself i don't know it

4500
02:56:23,590 --> 02:56:20,720
isn't global warming that will take a

4501
02:56:25,510 --> 02:56:23,600
long time it isn't the pandemic it will

4502
02:56:26,389 --> 02:56:25,520
pass there will be more

4503
02:56:28,230 --> 02:56:26,399
now

4504
02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:28,240
the thing you need to fear the most is

4505
02:56:32,710 --> 02:56:30,399
nuclear weapons period

4506
02:56:35,349 --> 02:56:32,720
it's in first place everything is in way

4507
02:56:37,510 --> 02:56:35,359
back behind like when secretariat won

4508
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:37,520
the was the preakness

4509
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:39,279
nuclear weapons do we talk about that do

4510
02:56:43,190 --> 02:56:41,439
we engage that the problem no no no we

4511
02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:43,200
don't talk about that

4512
02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:45,040
and so

4513
02:56:48,870 --> 02:56:46,560
what's the problem here we don't trust

4514
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:48,880
the government anymore

4515
02:56:52,469 --> 02:56:50,640
we've undermined trust to the point

4516
02:56:56,469 --> 02:56:52,479
where it's practically destructive to

4517
02:56:58,950 --> 02:56:56,479
our democracy and these lies these this

4518
02:57:00,550 --> 02:56:58,960
fable has been operating that way

4519
02:57:02,469 --> 02:57:00,560
screw you

4520
02:57:04,389 --> 02:57:02,479
so unless the government gets back in

4521
02:57:07,349 --> 02:57:04,399
the truth business pretty soon if it

4522
02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:07,359
doesn't start getting forthright with us

4523
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:11,439
well the next pandemic may be an 80

4524
02:57:14,790 --> 02:57:13,600
fatality rate right slaughtering people

4525
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:14,800
by the hundreds of millions and the

4526
02:57:17,910 --> 02:57:16,000
government says you've got to do

4527
02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:17,920
something we're going to say screw you

4528
02:57:22,469 --> 02:57:20,000
the regular people

4529
02:57:24,469 --> 02:57:22,479
are tired of being lied to the truth

4530
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:24,479
embargo was the greatest lie of all time

4531
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:26,160
it still stands

4532
02:57:30,389 --> 02:57:28,960
if you want to re set this so that when

4533
02:57:31,590 --> 02:57:30,399
the government actually tells you boy

4534
02:57:33,830 --> 02:57:31,600
you need to do this or we're going to

4535
02:57:35,830 --> 02:57:33,840
have a real problem people go oh yeah

4536
02:57:37,510 --> 02:57:35,840
absolutely then you better end this damn

4537
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:37,520
truth embargo as soon as possible and

4538
02:57:40,710 --> 02:57:39,200
stop lying about anything else by the

4539
02:57:43,190 --> 02:57:40,720
way anything big

4540
02:57:45,590 --> 02:57:43,200
so the governments lie about life and

4541
02:57:47,590 --> 02:57:45,600
death and peace and war and the presence

4542
02:57:48,550 --> 02:57:47,600
of extraterrestrials and then wonders

4543
02:57:50,630 --> 02:57:48,560
why

4544
02:57:53,830 --> 02:57:50,640
when it says my god we need to get

4545
02:57:55,910 --> 02:57:53,840
vaccinated people say screw you

4546
02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:55,920
that's the fable that's the message i'm

4547
02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:57,439
trying to get across

4548
02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:59,200
right this truth embargoes about a hell

4549
02:58:02,309 --> 02:58:00,880
of a lot more than just finally learning

4550
02:58:04,389 --> 02:58:02,319
there's et's here

4551
02:58:07,030 --> 02:58:04,399
the truth embargo has done more damage

4552
02:58:09,110 --> 02:58:07,040
to our society our culture

4553
02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:09,120
our geopolitics than the presence of

4554
02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:11,279
extraterrestrials they fly here they fly

4555
02:58:14,150 --> 02:58:12,880
there you know they occasionally take

4556
02:58:16,070 --> 02:58:14,160
some blood from an animal and they put

4557
02:58:16,950 --> 02:58:16,080
crop circles down in the uk

4558
02:58:19,510 --> 02:58:16,960
what

4559
02:58:22,309 --> 02:58:19,520
a truth embargo is undermined our entire

4560
02:58:24,070 --> 02:58:22,319
structure is undermined our trust it's

4561
02:58:25,510 --> 02:58:24,080
it's it's created broad-spectrum

4562
02:58:27,269 --> 02:58:25,520
dysfunction

4563
02:58:29,190 --> 02:58:27,279
it's eroding it's eating at us like the

4564
02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:29,200
barnacles at the bottom of the boat

4565
02:58:33,750 --> 02:58:29,920
or

4566
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:33,760
what are those things that eat wood

4567
02:58:37,590 --> 02:58:35,920
termites termites

4568
02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:37,600
the truth embargo has been a massive

4569
02:58:41,830 --> 02:58:40,000
termites eating at the potty body

4570
02:58:43,429 --> 02:58:41,840
politics eating at the ship of state the

4571
02:58:45,190 --> 02:58:43,439
damn thing's gonna sink

4572
02:58:47,990 --> 02:58:45,200
that's how big it is that's what this is

4573
02:58:50,630 --> 02:58:48,000
about that's the activism okay

4574
02:58:52,870 --> 02:58:50,640
lying is toxic lying will destroy the

4575
02:58:55,110 --> 02:58:52,880
government has lived on the lie it is

4576
02:58:57,429 --> 02:58:55,120
impressed the lie forward and expects

4577
02:59:00,469 --> 02:58:57,439
people to to give it a pass and go at

4578
02:59:02,710 --> 02:59:00,479
the next lie well we'll buy them out no

4579
02:59:04,630 --> 02:59:02,720
it's over those days are gone

4580
02:59:05,830 --> 02:59:04,640
and it gets worse we've lied to other

4581
02:59:07,590 --> 02:59:05,840
countries

4582
02:59:09,990 --> 02:59:07,600
right when we lied about the gulf of

4583
02:59:12,070 --> 02:59:10,000
tonkin it meant we sent 400 000 troops

4584
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:12,080
to vietnam and then we bombed north

4585
02:59:15,429 --> 02:59:14,080
vietnam with more bombs than we dropped

4586
02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:15,439
in world war ii

4587
02:59:19,590 --> 02:59:17,439
and north vietnam is right underneath

4588
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:19,600
china we were dropping them right over

4589
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:22,240
the hill from china after lying about it

4590
02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,800
to china and the world and now we wonder

4591
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:26,560
why is it that china keeps wanting to

4592
02:59:31,030 --> 02:59:28,720
build more nuclear submarines and

4593
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,040
aircraft carriers right why are we still

4594
02:59:36,389 --> 02:59:33,439
that are they a potential threat

4595
02:59:38,070 --> 02:59:36,399
hey if i was china and i and i saw what

4596
02:59:39,910 --> 02:59:38,080
the us did and lying about the gulf of

4597
02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:39,920
tonkin and then moving into vietnam and

4598
02:59:44,070 --> 02:59:42,000
bombing the hell out of my neighbor i

4599
02:59:47,110 --> 02:59:44,080
would never trust us

4600
02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:47,120
so this is bigger than

4601
02:59:51,349 --> 02:59:49,279
abrams it's bigger than us

4602
02:59:53,429 --> 02:59:51,359
it is massive it implications are

4603
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:53,439
enormous and i encourage people to do

4604
02:59:56,469 --> 02:59:55,200
the best you can to understand it get up

4605
02:59:58,630 --> 02:59:56,479
to speed on it

4606
03:00:00,070 --> 02:59:58,640
but maybe listen to this bigger picture

4607
03:00:02,070 --> 03:00:00,080
from time to time

4608
03:00:03,910 --> 03:00:02,080
because there's a lot more going on here

4609
03:00:05,670 --> 03:00:03,920
than the president finally saying yeah

4610
03:00:06,389 --> 03:00:05,680
there's et's here and most of us already

4611
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:06,399
know

4612
03:00:11,030 --> 03:00:08,560
stephen bassett thank you so much what a

4613
03:00:15,110 --> 03:00:11,040
great way to end this conversation

4614
03:00:16,550 --> 03:00:15,120
and uh everybody go to paradigm research

4615
03:00:18,309 --> 03:00:16,560
group dot com the links are over at

4616
03:00:20,710 --> 03:00:18,319
jimmychurchradio.com

4617
03:00:22,790 --> 03:00:20,720
steven updates it and stays on top of

4618
03:00:24,950 --> 03:00:22,800
everything over there great conversation

4619
03:00:27,429 --> 03:00:24,960
tonight man thank you so much and i look

4620
03:00:29,510 --> 03:00:27,439
forward to our dinner and me knocking a

4621
03:00:30,790 --> 03:00:29,520
hole in your credit card sir thank you

4622
03:00:33,190 --> 03:00:30,800
so much

4623
03:00:34,790 --> 03:00:33,200
bye steven bassett

4624
03:00:36,710 --> 03:00:34,800
and we just went straight to the end i

4625
03:00:39,349 --> 03:00:36,720
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4626
03:00:41,269 --> 03:00:39,359
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4627
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4628
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:43,359
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4629
03:00:48,469 --> 03:00:46,160
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4630
03:00:50,550 --> 03:00:48,479
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4631
03:00:52,469 --> 03:00:50,560
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4632
03:00:54,150 --> 03:00:52,479
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4633
03:00:55,990 --> 03:00:54,160
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4634
03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:56,000
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4635
03:01:00,870 --> 03:00:58,160
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4636
03:01:02,950 --> 03:01:00,880
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4637
03:01:04,870 --> 03:01:02,960
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4638
03:01:06,710 --> 03:01:04,880
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4639
03:01:08,230 --> 03:01:06,720
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4640
03:01:09,590 --> 03:01:08,240
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4641
03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:09,600
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4642
03:01:13,670 --> 03:01:10,960
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4643
03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:13,680
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4644
03:01:17,910 --> 03:01:16,720
tomorrow night right here dr robert m

4645
03:01:21,590 --> 03:01:17,920
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4646
03:01:32,530 --> 03:01:21,600
until then i want everybody to be safe

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03:01:32,540 --> 03:01:46,230
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4648
03:01:46,240 --> 03:01:50,400
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